741 Colonel Ledyard Highway  
Ledyard, Connecticut 06339  
TOWN OF LEDYARD  
Finance Committee  
Meeting Minutes  
Chairman S. Naomi  
Rodriguez  
Regular Meeting  
Wednesday, September 18, 2024  
5:00 PM  
Town Hall Annex Building - Hybrid  
Format  
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I
CALL TO ORDER  
the Meeting was called to order by Committee Chairman Councilor Saccone at 5:00  
p.m. at the Council Chambers Town Hall Annex Building.  
Councilor Saccone welcomed all to the Hybrid Meeting. He stated for the Town  
Council Finance Committee and members of the Public who were participating via  
video conference that the remote meeting information was available on the Agenda  
that was posted on the Town’s Website - Granicus-Legistar Meeting Portal.  
II.  
ROLL CALL  
Tony Saccone  
Jessica Buhle  
Tim Ryan  
Present:  
In addition, the following were present:  
S. Naomi Rodriguez Town Council Chairman  
April BrunelleTown Councilor  
Fred Allyn, IIMI ayor  
Matthew Bonin Finance Director  
Joe de la CurzCommunity Speaks Out  
Mike Doyle Community Speaks Out  
Roxanne Maher Administrative Assistant  
III.  
IV.  
V.  
RESIDENTS & PROPERTY OWNERS COMMENTS  
None.  
PRESENTATIONS / INFORMATIONAL ITEMS  
None.  
APPROVAL OF MINUTES  
MOTION to approve the Finance Committee Minutes of September 4, 2024  
Moved by Councilor Buhle, seconded by Councilor Ryan  
VOTE:  
3 - 0 Approved and so declared  
Finance Director’s Report  
Finance Director Matthew Bonin stated Auditors CliftonLarsonAllen, LLP., were  
VI.  
scheduled to begin their work on the Annual Audit for Fiscal Year Ending June 30, 2024  
, noting that they would be at the Town Hall on October 7, 2024. He stated the Finance  
Department has been continuing their work on year-end adjustments in preparation for  
the Audit work.  
CONTINUE  
Financial Reports  
Finance Director Matthew Bonin noted he provided an updated report regarding the  
RESULT:  
VII.  
status of the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) Projects, which was attached to the  
Agenda on the Meeting Portal.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
VI.  
OLD BUSINESS  
Discussion regarding potential uses for the funding received from the National Opioid  
Settlement Payments.  
1.  
Councilor Buhle questioned the current balance of the National Opioid Settlement  
Account. Finance Director Matthew Bonin stated to-date the town has received a  
total of $147,000. He noted at their September 27, 2023 the Town Council approved  
to distribute $36,100 to Ledyard Light Health District/Ledyard Prevention Coalition,  
leaving an Account Balance of about $110,000.  
Mayor Allyn, III, stated some of the allowed opioid remediation uses of the National  
Opioid Settlement funding included education to focus groups to discourage and  
prevent opioid use; co-responder models to address opioid use, and disorder related  
9-1-1 Calls. He noted that Community Speaks Out gave a presentation at the Town  
Council September 11, 2024 Meeting. He stated Ledyard would continue to receive  
funding from the National Opioid Settlement though 2037, stating that Community  
Speaks Out could be one of multiple options that the town could choose to distribute  
these funds too, explaining that Ledyard needed to continue to get these funds out  
into the community.  
Mayor Allyn continued by addressing the Emergency Narcan Kits that were installed  
at the Town Green in Ledyard Center and at the Community Center (Library) in  
Gales Ferry. He stated the self-serve Emergency Narcan Kits had to be removed  
because of a glitch. He noted the State Legislature has been working to enable the  
Kits to go back in-place, however, the piece of the Legislation would not be approved  
until sometime in January-February, 2025. He stated in the meantime Narcan was  
available in Ledyard at the Police Department, both the Ledyard Center and Gales  
Ferry Fire Departments, both the Bill Library and Gales Ferry Library, noting that the  
town facilities were only open during regular business hours.  
Mayor Allyn went on to state the State Department of Emergency Management  
Security (DEMS) would be providing Narcan to municipalities for no cost. He stated  
Ledyard would be receiving 80-doses of Narcan, which would be kept at the Fire  
Departments. He stated towns were required to pick up the medication in Hartford.  
Mayor Allyn noted that Community Speaks Out was present this evening.  
CONTINUE  
Discuss the Community Speaks Out Recovery Coach Program and Services as a potential  
RESULT:  
·
Organization to allocate funding received through the National Opioid Settlement Payments  
to support programs in Ledyard.  
Mr. Mike Doyle, Community Speaks Out Representative, addressed the distribution  
of Narcan through the State Department of Emergency Management Services  
(DEMS). He stated the Narcan needed to be stored in temperature/climate control  
boxes. He stated the non-climate control boxes cost about $300.00; versus the climate  
control boxes which cost about $5,000.00. He stated Community Speaks Out noted  
that one solution would be to work with stores that were open 24/7 to see if they  
would allow Emergency Narcan Kits in their store. He stated in Norwich about 5-6  
stores have agreed to allow them to install an Emergency Narcan Kit Box.  
The Finance Committee discussed with Community Speaks Out the following:  
· What Schools was Community Speaks Out currently working with:  
Mr. Doyle stated that Community Speaks Out has visited Grasso Tech in Groton,  
Lyman Memorial High School in Lebanon, Stonington High School, and Ellis Technical  
High School in Danielson. He also noted that they have been working with Norwich  
Public Schools, and will be visiting their schools soon.  
· Services/Programs:  
Mr. Doyle noted the services Community Speaks Out included Narcan Training,  
Opioid Education, Follow-up with overdose cases, Recovery Coach Program, and  
programs such as Bullying Prevention at the Middle School and High School.  
Mr. Doyle stated that he would be talking with students in Stonington and that he  
would also be scheduling a program to talk with the parents as well to help them  
understand what to look for, etc.  
· Follow Up Program - Privacy Issues:  
Mr. Doyle noted that he reviewed the Overdose Map for Ledyard and Gales Ferry  
explaining that Community Speaks Out would work with first responders to visit  
those who experienced an overdose to start a conversation with them and their  
family.  
Chairman Rodriguez questioned whether a Police Department or other First  
Responders have refused to provide the information to Community Speaks Out  
because of privacy issues. Mr. Doyle explained when the Police Department responds  
to a call that it was a matter of public record. He explained that Community Speaks  
Out sign Non-Disclosure Agreements, stating that their Organization would not give  
information out. He stated their Organization has responded to calls with the Police,  
and that they have not has any issues.  
Mr. Doyle went on to explain when an Ambulance Service transports an overdose  
patient to the hospital, it could fall under the protected health information. However,  
he stated if Community Speaks Out had an Agreement with the town, as they  
currently do in Norwich, that their program/services (follow-up visit) would become  
part of the town’s initiative. He stated Community Speaks Out has been responding to  
calls with the City of Norwich’s First Responders and conducting follow-up visits for  
the past 4 -5 years, noting that they have not had a problem. He stated they were  
working to implement the same type of program in Groton as well.  
· Wrap Around Program:  
Mr. Joe de la Cruz addressed Community Speaks Out’s participation in Groton  
explaining that some people overdose three times in the same week, noting that the  
Police Department knows the names of the people who need help; and sometimes  
they feel that they were not making a difference. However, he stated because  
Community Speaks Out has been able to work with the Police Department and  
provide them with updates and in some cases positive results on the people they were  
able to help, that Police Department and/or First Responders feel that they were  
making a difference.  
Mr. de la Cruz stated Community Speaks Out has 17 Sober Homes in Groton; 17  
Sober Homes in New London; a few Sober Homes in Norwich, and 1 Sober Home in  
Ledyard.  
Mr. Doyle stated that Community Speaks Out would be starting to respond to calls  
with the Groton Police Department, which would allow them to begin to work with  
the survivor at that point. He stated the earlier they start the relationship with a  
survivor the better the outcome, explaining that there was a very small window when  
the survivor was willing to get help.  
Proposal/Plan:  
Councilor Buhle stated that she thought Community Speaks Out was a great program,  
and that she would like to see their full proposal.  
Councilor Saccone asked Community Speaks Out to submit proposals that would be  
tailored for the Town of Ledyard for the Finance Committee to review.  
Mr. de la Cruz and Mr. Doyle thanked the Finance Committee for the opportunity to  
address them this evening. They stated that they would prepare and email their  
proposal regarding the programs and services that Community Speaks Out would  
provide in Ledyard.  
The Finance Committee thanked Mr. de la Cruz and Mr. Doyle for attending  
tonight's meeting.  
Mr. de la Cruz and Mr. Doyle left the meeting at 5:19 p.m.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
Continued discussion regarding the status and possible changes to Capital Improvement Plan  
(CIP) and Capital Non-Recurring (CNR) Fund based on the American Rescue Act Funding  
(ARPA) and the process to approve ARPA Projects and expend ARPA Funding.  
2.  
The Finance Committee, Mayor Allyn, III, and Finance Director Matthew Bonin  
reviewed the status of the American Rescue Act Funding (ARPA) Projects noting the  
following:  
· Options for the Reallocation of ARPA Funding Remaining from Completed  
Projects:  
Mayor Allyn stated he sent an email asking Department Heads and the Board of  
Education if they had projects that they could get a contract in-place by the December  
31, 2024 ARPA Deadline noting he received responses from the following:  
o Administrator of Emergency Services  
ü $20,000 CPR Devices - Ledyard Center Fire Department  
ü $20,000 CPR Devices - Gales Ferry Fire Department  
o Town Clerk  
ü $5,500 - American Disability Act (ADA) Counter tops  
o Water Pollution Control Authority  
ü
ü
ü
ü
$925,000 to Reline the Sewer Collection System.  
$200,000 to replace the 30-year old pumps and valves ($200,000).  
$250,000 to replace 30-year old UV System  
$100,000 to replace30-year old generator and transfer switch  
o Ledyard Center Fire Department  
o Gales Ferry Fire Department  
ü Remediation of R-21 -Foam Pump - Councilor Saccone stated the Foam was  
100% reimbursable from the State Department Energy and Environmental  
Protection (DEEP)  
ü State Digital Portables and Mobiles  
ü New breathing air compressor  
Councilor Ryan thanked Mayor Allyn for reviewing the Projects that the department  
Heads submitted. He stated there were a few projects on the List that could be  
accomplished in a short turnaround time using some of funds remaining from other  
completed ARPA Projects.  
Chairman Rodriguez questioned whether the Senior Citizens Center or Gales Ferry  
Fire Department submitted a request for a generator. Mayor Allyn stated that Parks,  
Recreation & Senior Center has not yet responded to his request. He stated the Gales  
Ferry Fire Department did not submit a request for a generator. He stated that he  
would send out a reminder next week to Department Heads.  
Mayor Allyn continued by providing an update regarding the following Projects:  
· Gales Ferry Route 12 Corridor Study $50,000 - Mayor Allyn stated the town only  
received one Bid for the Project, noting that it came in $25,000 higher than the  
$50,000 that was earmarked from the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funding.  
He stated although they were working to try to reduce the cost that additional funding  
would be required. Therefore, he stated that he would be requesting additional ARPA  
Funding be directed to the Roue 12 Corridor Study at the Finance Committee’s  
October 2, 2024 meeting.  
· Mental Health Clinicians $190,000 - At the Town Council’s August 14, 2024  
meeting they approved to allocate $90,888 to contract with the Child and Family  
Agency to provide mental health services to the students at the Juliet W. Long  
School, and Gales Ferry School for one school year. A Subrecipient Agreement was  
now in-place.  
Mayor Allyn explained that the Mental Health Clinicians ARPA balance was about  
$75,000. He stated on September 16, 2024 Clinician Pat Frost, who has been  
providing mental health services at the High School and Middle School, reported that  
she has not had any clients since May, 2024. He stated because the new school year  
has just begun, that he discussed with Ms. Frost waiting a couple of weeks to see if  
any referrals for services come in from the School Administration or Teachers. He  
stated on November 1, 2024 they would reassess and if needed come to the Finance  
Committee to discuss revising the Mental Health Clinicians ARPA Budget.  
Councilor Buhle suggested the School Principals send an email to parents to inform  
them that mental health services were available for students, free of charge. She  
stated although kids were good at masking and pretending that everything was fine;  
that by not identifying when kids were struggling, and by not providing them with the  
support they need, that they have the major crisis they were seeing in this country.  
She stated that she did not want to see the Mental Health Clinician program end, and  
parents find out after the fact that these mental health services were available to their  
child. She suggested in addition to an email to parents that perhaps this information  
be included in the monthly newsletters to let residents know that help was accessible.  
She also suggested that perhaps Family Counseling be an option to use the ARPA  
Funding that was earmarked for Mental Health Services.  
Mayor Allyn stated during their meeting with Superintendent Hartling on Monday,  
September 23, 2024; they would recommend that the High School and Middle School  
Principals send out an email blast regarding the availability of mental health support.  
He stated although this was under the Board of Education’s purview that they could  
certainly make a recommendation, because of the funding that was currently  
available.  
Chairman Rodriguez stated that she found it hard to believe that there were no  
students at the Middle School or High School that needed mental health services. She  
stated that there seemed to be something wrong there.  
Councilor Buhle stated based on the feedback that the Finance Committee received  
regarding mental health services, which included: (1) The Clinician was not  
comfortable with administering services to the elementary school age children; (2)  
The cases that were transferred to Ms. Frost were completed and closed out; and (3)  
The Clinician has not had any clients since May, 2024; that it may be helpful to find  
out: (1) Whether the clinician was a good fit for the students; and (2) Was the  
clinician relatable, approachable, and easy to talk with. She stated although she  
understood that they could not follow-up with the students and ask them these  
questions, that if a student was not comfortable with the clinician, that the student  
was not going to continue after one or two visits. She questioned whether they should  
have offered multiple clinicians for a student to find one they could identify with.  
Mayor Allyn stated the town solicited per diem clinicians, however, he they did not  
have success in getting additional clinicians to join them. Therefore, he stated they  
could not offer a selection of clinicians, when they only had one that came forward.  
He stated this was a gray area for the General Government because they were trying  
to step into the Educational realm to provide mental health services for them.  
· Erickson Park Improvements $55,000 - Mayor Allyn stated Parks, Recreation &  
Senior Citizens Director Scott Johnson, Jr. was waiting for Public Works  
Director/Town Engineer Steve Masalin to return from vacation, because one of the  
contractors was on the Standing Bid Waiver List. He noted that Mr. Masalin would  
return to the office on Monday, September 23, 2024; and that he believed they would  
be able to get this project moving forward.  
· Sewer Projects - Councilor Saccone stated in speaking with Public Works  
Director/Town Engineer Steve Masalin that he was confident that the sewer projects  
would come thru. He stated that Mr. Masalin was their expert in town that deals with  
contractors, contracts, and funding. Therefore, he stated hopefully they get everything  
in place to do these projects and spend all of their ARPA Funding.  
· Phase III- Sewer Extension Project -$950,000 - Upgrade the existing sewer line  
from the High School to Pennywise Lane where it tied into the distribution system  
High School to Pennywise Lane to the Wastewater Treatment Facility - Mayor Allyn,  
stated the Contractor has received the design plans and was currently working to  
provide the an estimate for the construction cost, which was expected within the next  
7 - 10 days.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
Any other Old Business proper to come before the Committee  
3.  
Continued discussion regarding upcoming potential Grant Opportunities.  
Grant Opportunities:  
Councilor Buhle suggested the Finance Committee add to their Agendas a  
Continued discussion regarding upcoming potential Grant Opportunities”. She  
addressed the importance to review and work with Departments to prepare Projects  
that may be eligible for Grant opportunities such as the Small Town Economic  
Assistance Program (STEAP), noting that the minimum Grant amount has been  
increased from $500,000 to $1 million. She stated although she understood that  
Governor Lamott has not announced STEAP Grants for this fiscal year, that if the  
town had projects that were “shovel ready” and included in their Capital  
Improvement Plan (CIP) that they would be prepared to submit an Application, when  
the opportunity becomes available, noting that the Application period was typically  
open for about 35-days, which was quite short. She also noted by being prepared that  
they would not have to rush or hold a special meeting to approve to submit the Grant  
Application before the deadline.  
Councilor Buhle went on to state that Parks, Recreation & Senior Citizens Director  
Scott Johnson, Jr., has been discussing the need to conduct a Park Study. She also  
noted that obtaining STEAP funding to improve the Playground and its equipment at  
the Town Green would not only continue to provide a great space for the Farmers  
Market, but that it would be an amazing area that would be welcoming for all  
families.  
Mayor Allyn addressed STEAP Grant Applications noting that the Governor would  
typically announce Grant opportunities around May or June. He stated that he agreed  
with Councilor Buhle regarding the playground at the Town Green, noting that  
families use the playground at the Town Green a lot, despite its age. He stated that it  
may be a good opportunity to install an Inclusive Playscape. He stated that he also  
agreed that they should have a list of projects that were “shovel ready” for when  
grant programs such as STEAP, become available.  
Mayor Allyn went on to note that today they discussed the need to install an elevator  
at the Town Hall, which would cost about $900,000. He stated although the Town  
Hall had ADA Handicap Ramps and ADA Automated Doors, at some point they  
were going to have to install an elevator to provide better American Disability Act  
(ADA) accessibility. He stated this would be a good project for grant funding  
VII. NEW BUSINESS  
Discuss Board of Education Chairman Anthony Favry’s September 10, 2024 email  
requesting the Town Council conduct a comprehensive infrastructure study to include  
Ledyard school facilities.  
1.  
Mayor Fred Allyn, III, stated during the Town Council’s September 11, 2024 meeting he  
mentioned that the Town had previously conducted two Facilities Studies, noting the  
most recent Study was the precursor to the School(s) Consolidation/Improvement  
Project(s) (Middle School and Gallup Hill School) which were completed in 2019. He  
stated in reviewing the Request for Proposal (RFP) process to conduct the Study that the  
cost ranged from $90,000 to $300,000. Therefore, he suggested if the Town Council  
wanted to engage in a Facilities Study that it should be included in the Capital  
Improvement Plan (CIP) as pat of the Annual Budget Process beginning in January,  
2025.  
Councilor Ryan stated he was under the impression that the Board of  
Education/Administration kept track of demographics and expected enrollment numbers,  
etc. He stated that this data would address some of the things the Board of Education  
was looking for the Infrastructure Study to help the schools with. He noted in Chairman  
Favry’s September 10, 2024 email that the Board of Education was primarily looking for  
enrollment numbers and how much the school facilities would need to grow, which  
would include the number of teachers, etc. He questioned whether the Board of  
Education was not currently doing those extrapolations and projections.  
Chairman Rodriguez noted that she previously served on the Board of Education and  
that Councilor Ryan was correct, in that the Superintendent of Schools would provide  
the Board of Education with projected student enrollment numbers and whether the  
number of students would increase, etc., in future years. She stated that she did not know  
if the Board of Education was looking at potential development. However, she stated  
that the Town Council did not know what farmer was going to sell their property; or who  
was going to buy the property.  
Councilor Ryan noted in Board of Education Chairman Favry’s September 10, 2024  
email the Board was looking to obtain information regarding where the growth of  
population would be in town. However, he stated by looking at the locations of certain  
proposed developments that they could gather which school buildings would be most  
affected. He went on to state that he did not know if this was something they would look  
at in school budget numbers. Therefore, he stated that he would like to have a better  
understanding of what the Board of Education was looking for. He suggested they  
schedule a joint meeting with the Board of Education to discuss what they would be  
looking to obtain from the Facilities Study.  
Mayor Allyn stated former Superintendent of Schools Dr. Mike Graner engaged with an  
Firm that conducted a Student Enrollment Study, which provided a 5-year projection. He  
stated that perhaps the Board of Education should consider updating the Student  
Enrollment Study.  
Chairman Rodriguez noted because Ledyard was a military community that there were a  
lot of unknowns relative to student enrollment because of military families moving into  
and moving out of town. She stated although the Board of Education sends out forms to  
parents to get an idea of the number of families that were being relocated out of town  
that not everyone responds to the Board of Education’s request.  
Councilor Buhle addressed the challenge of trying to project student enrollment relative  
to people moving in an out of town. She provided a scenario of empty nesters, who have  
raised their family but have continued to live in their 4-bedroom home for many years  
and were now selling to younger families. She stated the town then sees neighborhoods  
that did not have kids for many years slowly be filled with kids.  
Councilor Buhle continued by stating that she also believed that planning to conduct a  
Facilities Study should be part of the Annual Budget Process. However, she stated that  
she would have a hard time budgeting $100,000; $200,000 or $300,000 for a Study to  
tell them that their schools were not large enough, when she already knows that, noting  
as an example that a one grade level cannot each lunch at the same time because the  
Middle School, the Cafeteria was not large enough.  
Chairman Rodriguez noted in years past when a family became empty nesters they  
would look to downsize and sell their home to another young family. However, she  
stated the most recent trend she has seen was that empty nesters who want to downsize  
were not selling their homes because it was going to cost them more money to downsize;  
and therefore, they were choosing to stay in their larger homes.  
Councilor Ryan stated that he agreed with Councilor Buhle’s practical observations  
about the size of the schools. However, he stated that he believed that they would need  
data to help them make decisions on how to build out, etc., for budgetary reasons. He  
questioned how a Facilities Study would benefit the General Government.  
Councilor Saccone stated that they were seeing a lot of growth coming into the town  
through development. He stated although the history from the School District relative to  
the ebbs and flows of military families, and baby boomers selling or not selling their  
homes would not be precise, that the town should budget for a Facilities Study to plan  
for the future.  
Councilor Ryan stated Board of Education Chairman Favry’s September 10, 2024 email  
focused on the proposed new Developments; and therefore, he stated that there had to be  
some numbers associated with the Developments in terms of livable housing units, that  
would help with planning purposes.  
DISCUSSED  
RESULT:  
MOTION to approve a tax refund to Hoops & Associates LLC, 19A Thames St. Groton, CT  
06340 in the amount of $2,523.86.  
2.  
Moved by Councilor Buhle, seconded by Councilor Ryan  
Discussion: Mayor Allyn, III stated this was a double payment of the property taxes  
as part of the sale of the property. He noted that both the Mortgage Company paid the  
taxes and the closing Attorney paid the taxes.  
VOTE: 3 - 0 Approved and so declared  
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL  
Jessica Buhle  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Tim Ryan  
SECONDER:  
3
Saccone, Buhle and Ryan  
AYE:  
Any other New Business proper to come before the Committee.  
None.  
3.  
IV  
ADJOURNMENT  
Councilor Buhle moved the meeting be adjourned, seconded by Councilor Ryan.  
VOTE:  
3 - 0 Approved and so declared, the meeting was adjourned at 5:54 p.m.  
Respectfully submitted,  
Anthony Saccone, Sr.  
Committee Chairman  
Finance  
Committee  
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