741 Colonel Ledyard Highway  
Ledyard, CT 06339  
TOWN OF LEDYARD  
Administration Committee  
Meeting Minutes  
Chairman S. Naomi  
Rodriguez  
Regular Meeting  
Wednesday, September 11, 2024  
5:30 PM  
Town Hall Annex- Hybrid Format  
In -Person: Council Chambers, Town Hall Annex Building  
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I
CALL TO ORDER  
the Meeting was called to order by Councilor Garcia-Irizarry at 5:31 p.m. at the Council  
Chambers Town Hall Annex Building.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry welcomed all to the Hybrid Meeting. She stated for the Town  
Council Administration Committee and members of the Public who were participating  
via video conference that the remote meeting information was available on the Agenda  
that was posted on the Town’s Website - Granicus-Legistar Meeting Portal.  
II.  
ROLL CALL  
Carmen Garcia-Irizarry  
Kevin Dombrowski  
April Brunelle  
Present:  
In addition, the following were present:  
S. Naomi Rodriguez, Chairman  
Jessica Buhle, Town Councilor  
Fred Allyn, III, Mayor  
Kristen Chapman, Executive Assistant  
Brandon Graber, Board of Education Member  
Gary Schneider, Permanent Municipal Building Committee Chairman  
Barbara Kil, Resident  
Paul Billings, Resident  
Jill Thorne, Resident  
Deborah Edwards  
Roxanne Maher, Administrative Assistant  
III.  
RESIDENTS & PROPERTY OWNERS COMMENTS  
Ms. Barbara Kil, 50 Seabury Avenue, Gales Ferry, stated she has been a Ledyard  
resident for forty-five years. She noted that she was present this evening to address  
the following two items on tonight’s Agenda:  
(1) Flying Third Party Flags - Ms. Kil stated she endorsed flying the United States of  
America Flag and the State of Connecticut Flag, as it has been the town’s past  
practice. She stated the other options that were mentioned seemed to be discretionary,  
and therefore, she stated that they should leave the discretionary flags out.  
(2) Establishing an Ethics Commission - Ms. Kil stated that she believed the town  
already had documentation that addressed “Ethics”, noting that the Town Charter and  
the Employee Handbook both addressed ethical issues. She stated that it was difficult  
to get residents to volunteer to serve on town committees. Ms. Kil stated  
unfortunately she would not be able to stay to hear the discussion regarding these two  
Agenda Items because she had to attend another meeting this evening.  
Mr. Whit Irwin, 2 Winfield Way, Ledyard, attending remotely, noted that he was  
present this evening to talk about New Business Item #3 regarding the flying of  
Unofficial Third-Party Flags on town property. He stated it was his understanding  
this topic had been referred back to the Administration Committee to die. However,  
he stated that he was astounded, flabbergasted, a gassed, bewildered, and befuddled  
that this was on the Agenda this evening. He stated when the flying of Official  
Third-Party Flags was brought up at the June 12, 2024 Town Council meeting that  
he was outwardly against it, and he conveyed that to the Town Council, noting that he  
continued to remain against it. He stated that he believed the standard “Stars and  
Stripes” represented 100% of all Americans; and the State of Connecticut Flag  
represented 100% of all Connecticut Residents; and the POW - MIA and other  
Military Flags was a representation of American Citizens who signed on the dotted  
line for an amount up-to and including their lives for 100% of the rest of us. He  
stated no other Flag included everybody the way that these Flags included Americans.  
He stated to ask for any other Flags to be flown was excluding some portion of the  
population. He urged the Town Council to continue the town’s practice of what they  
have been doing; and that they let this idea die in Committee. He stated should the  
Town Council decide to do anything else that he would challenge every member of  
the Town Council to explain to the residents of Ledyard why they were supporting  
excluding some portion of our population. He challenged the members of the Town  
Council to make it plain to the residents as to why they were continuing to pursue  
Policies of Dis-Unity and Divisiveness. He stated if they continued to pursue  
anything other than the current policy that it was 100% ridiculous to the rest of us.  
Thank you.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry thanked the residents for their comments this evening.  
IV.  
V.  
PRESENTATIONS / INFORMATIONAL ITEMS  
None.  
APPROVAL OF MINUTES  
MOTION to approve the Administration Committee’s Special Meeting-Work Session  
Minutes of July 24, 2024  
Moved by Councilor Dombrowski, seconded by Councilor Brunelle  
VOTE:  
3 - 0 Approved and so declared  
APPROVED AND SO DECLARED  
RESULT:  
VI.  
OLD BUSINESS  
MOTION to adopt proposed Amendments to Ordinance #100-015 (rev.1) "An Ordinance  
Establishing a Permanent Municipal Building Committee for the Town of Ledyard" as  
presented in the draft dated September 11, 2024..  
1.  
DRAFT 7/24/2024 September 11, 2024  
Ordinance # 100-015 (rev.1)  
AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING  
A PERMANENT MUNICIPAL BUILDING COMMITTEE  
FOR THE TOWN OF LEDYARD  
Be it ordained by the Town Council of the Town of Ledyard  
Section 1. Authority  
Pursuant to Chapter IV, Section 7 of the Town Charter, a Permanent Municipal  
Building Committee is hereby established.  
Section 2. Purpose  
The Permanent Municipal Building Committee shall have continued  
responsibility for the execution of major select construction and maintenance projects  
for the Town of Ledyard as assigned by the Town Council. The Permanent  
Municipal Building Committee will oversee and supervise the design, construction,  
renovation, demolition and removal of Town and Board of Education buildings that  
fall within the approved budget, as well as any significant installation, renovation or  
upgrade of service equipment and major systems as provided herein.  
The Permanent Municipal Building Committee may have responsibility for the  
execution of buildings or infrastructure projects associated with the provisions of  
water and/or sewer, if deemed appropriate by the Town Council.  
For projects whose total project cost is estimated to exceed $500,000, an  
Owner’s Representative and/or Consulting Engineer shall be hired through a  
quality-based selection process to assist the Permanent Municipal Building  
Committee with management and oversight of such project(s). The Owner’s  
Representative or Consulting Engineer shall not have authority to make decisions,  
approvals, or otherwise act on behalf of the Permanent Building Committee unless  
specifically designated to do so by contract. The Owner’s Representative or  
Consulting Engineer shall be required to have the requisite experience, knowledge,  
qualifications, personnel and capacity necessary to manage such a project.  
The selection of an Owner’s Representative or Consulting Engineer shall be  
publicly advertised through a Request for Proposal to solicit proposals from  
interested parties. The Request for Proposal shall provide a clear scope of services  
that specifies the roles and responsibilities of the Owner’s Representative or  
Consulting Engineer. Where possible, it shall clearly specify the level of oversight  
during construction so that proposals from multiple firms can be clearly leveled  
during the evaluation process.  
The selection of the Owner’s Representative or Consulting Engineer shall be  
awarded to the firm that provides the best value to the Town of Ledyard. The best  
value is defined as the firm providing the highest quality, expertise, and knowledge  
for the proposed project. This shall also include the quality of referrals from a  
minimum of three references provided by the proposers. It shall also consider the  
fee for the work; however, the fee shall not be the sole basis for award.  
When a project involves the purchase of replacement equipment costing  
more than $500,000, a waiver to bypass the solicitation of bids for the engagement  
of an Owner’s Representative or Consulting Engineer may be approved by the  
Town Council; as requested by the Permanent Municipal Building Committee  
prior to purchase and installation of the equipment.  
The Permanent Municipal Building Committee shall comply with provisions  
provided in Ordinance 200-001 (rev.1) (An Ordinance for Purchasing) with regard  
to the competitive bid process; and shall interview a minimum of two firms prior to  
selection. Should only one firm be determined qualified to perform such work, the  
Permanent Municipal Building Committee may request a waiver for such a  
requirement should the firm’s proposal be reasonable for the proposed scope of  
work.  
The Permanent Municipal Building Committee shall make a written  
recommendation to the Town Council for the award of such services. The  
recommendation shall include a summary of proposers, a weighed ranking sheet  
for the selection, and reasons why the Permanent Municipal Building Committee  
is recommending such a firm. The final decision of award will lie with the Town  
Council. The Town Council possesses the authority to reject the recommendation  
and refer it back to the Permanent Municipal Building Committee for further  
action relative to making another recommendation for the award of such services  
in the best interest of the Town of Ledyard.  
Where external funding sources are used to fund the project, such  
requirements of the funding authority shall apply to the selection process as well.  
Where conflicts occur between this ordinance and the funding authority’s  
requirements, the most stringent requirement(s) shall be applicable as determined  
by Mayor or their designee.  
The Requests for Proposals for Owner’s Representatives or Consulting  
Engineers is subject to review by the Town Director of Finance. The Director of  
Finance is responsible for ensuring that all required local and state purchasing  
requirements are met and that all insurance requirements are included in the  
Request for Proposal.  
From time to time, the Permanent Municipal Building Committee may be asked  
to undertake certain studies or projects by the Town Council. In case of multiple  
projects, the Town Council may form a separate building committee for a particular  
project.  
Section 3. Membership  
The Permanent Municipal Building Committee shall consist of the following  
members appointed by the Town Council:  
Regular Members: Five (5). These members, to the extent possible, shall include  
those with experience in finance, engineering, architecture, project management, or  
the building trades. They shall be appointed by the Town Council for a term of three  
(3) years.  
Temporary Members: For each municipal project, up to two (2) temporary  
members who are a member or representative of the Proposing Body shall be  
appointed by the Town Council.  
For Board of Education projects, at least one of their two temporary members  
shall be the a Board of Education Chairman or their designee member. Board of  
Education Temporary Members shall be appointed by the Town Council.  
Temporary Members shall serve for the term of the project they have been  
appointed for.  
Temporary members shall have the right to vote on the activities of the  
Permanent Municipal Building Committee only with respect to the particular project  
for which such members were appointed.  
Ex-Officio Members: The Town Finance Director, Public Works Director, Board  
of Education Business Manager and/or his designee, Board of Education Director of  
Facilities and Grounds, Town Engineering Technician, Town Planner and the  
Permanent Municipal Building Committee’s Town Council Liaison shall be  
non-voting ex-officio members.  
Quorum: A quorum shall consist of a majority of Regular voting members.  
Section 4. Terms of appointment  
Regular members shall be appointed by the Town Council for a term of three (3)  
years. Members shall commence to serve their terms immediately upon appointment  
and shall serve until their successor has qualified or they have been reappointed or  
removed by the Town Council.  
Any vacancy in the Permanent Municipal Building Committee other than by  
expiration of term shall be filled for the unexpired portion of the term by the Town  
Council. The Town Council may remove members for cause and fill the vacancy per  
Chapter IV, Section 6 of the Town Charter.  
Cause for removal shall include, but is not limited to, unexcused absence  
from three (3) consecutive regular meetings and any intervening duly called special  
meeting.  
Any member of the Permanent Municipal Building Committee who is absent  
from three (3) consecutive regular meetings and any intervening duly called special  
meetings shall be considered to have resigned from the Permanent Municipal  
Building Committee. The vacancy shall be filled as herein before provided.  
Additionally, the Permanent Municipal Building Committee may vote to waive the  
requirements of this section in each case where illness or other extenuating  
circumstances make it impossible for a member to meet the attendance requirements  
of this action.  
It shall be the responsibility of the Chairman of the Permanent Municipal  
Building Committee to notify the Town Council when a member has not properly  
performed his duties.  
Annually, the regular members of the Permanent Municipal Building Committee  
shall elect a Chairman, Vice Chairman and Secretary. Any vacancy in any such  
office shall be filled by the Permanent Municipal Building Committee from its  
regular membership.  
Section 5. Powers and Duties  
The Permanent Municipal Building Committee is authorized to develop design  
plans and drawings for municipal building projects directed by the Town Council,  
primarily in accordance with the Town’s Capital Improvements Projects List.  
The Permanent Municipal Building Committee is authorized to recommend to  
the Mayor to retain the services of architects and/or engineers for the purpose of  
planning, designing, building and administrating major capital projects. The  
process shall utilize a quality-based selection similar to that outlined in Section 2  
for the Owner’s Representative or Consulting Engineer. Such selection shall be  
based on experience, knowledge, capacity and expertise as well as the fee for  
performing such work.  
The Permanent Municipal Building Committee is authorized to interview  
architects and/or engineers for the purpose of planning, designing, building and  
completing municipal building projects, and based on said interviews and cost  
estimates, to hire suitable candidates. When an Owner’s Representative is required  
for the project, the Permanent Building Committee shall provide a  
recommendation for the hiring of an Owner’s Representative prior to selecting the  
architect and/or engineer, so that the Owner’s Representative may assist with the  
development of the Request for Proposal, the selection process, project control  
budgets, project schedules, contracts and other material necessary to properly  
solicit comprehensive proposals by interested firms.  
The Permanent Municipal Building Committee is authorized to develop  
schedules and cost estimates budgets for municipal building projects. However,  
when an Owner’s Representative is required, the Owner’s Representative shall be  
responsible for drafting such schedules and budgets; and shall be approved by the  
Permanent Municipal Building Committee. The Owner’s Representative shall also  
be responsible for developing a project cash flow projection for review by the Town  
Director of Finance, as approved by the Permanent Municipal Building  
Committee.  
The Permanent Municipal Building Committee is authorized to recommend to  
the Mayor the execution of municipal building project contracts as may be approved  
by the Town Council.  
The Permanent Municipal Building Committee shall have authority over all  
change order requests. The Permanent Municipal Building Committee shall also  
coordinate all applications for grants and other financial assistance documents except  
for school construction grants through the Department of Education. Such grant  
applications are the responsibility of the Superintendent of Schools and the Board  
of Education. The Permanent Municipal Building Committee shall submit change  
orders and grants/financial assistance documentation to the appropriate authority in a  
timely manner and with timely notification to the Town Council. The Town Council  
is the authority to modify or change the scope of the project.  
The Permanent Municipal Building Committee shall at least quarterly report its  
activity to the Town Council and to the Proposing Body, if applicable; and shall  
submit a final report upon completion of each project. The Permanent Municipal  
Building Committee is also authorized to conduct periodic reviews and audits of the  
physical condition of all municipal and school buildings and grounds, including  
service equipment and major systems and make recommendations to the Town  
Council for inclusion into the Town’s Capital Improvements Projects List and should  
work with the Mayor’s Office and the appropriate boards and commissions and  
agencies.  
It is understood that the agencies assigned responsibility for specific buildings,  
grounds, capital, and facilities shall assess, prioritize, seek funding and actively  
support administration of projects assigned to the Permanent Municipal Building  
Committee.  
The Permanent Municipal Building Committee shall, with assistance from the  
Proposing Body ensure that projects are completed, including the close-out of  
required reports, in a timely manner.  
Section 6. Spending Funds  
The Permanent Municipal Building Committee may expend such funds as the  
Town Council, or if required the Town Meeting, may appropriate to carry out its  
duties as described herein. There shall be no intermingling of funding between  
projects.  
Section 7. Definitions:  
For the purpose of this Ordinance, the following definitions shall apply:  
1) “Major maintenance” shall include capital building/improvement projects and  
projects  
that are capital in nature; that is, having a useful life of five or more years.  
“Major maintenance” shall not include routine maintenance and upkeep of a building  
or other structures, or its service equipment, which is performed on a regular basis.  
2)  
“Service equipment and major systems” shall include boilers, elevators,  
generators, HVAC systems, septic systems, fire alarms, electrical service including  
wiring and fixtures, major plumbing service, building skin (roofs, gutters, masonry,  
windows, exterior paint, floor covering, etc.) It shall not include information system  
technology (computers and computer systems).  
3).  
“Proposing Body” means the Town of Ledyard appointed or elected board or  
commission sponsoring or requesting a construction or major maintenance project or  
for a project initiated by the Permanent Building Committee itself, the board or  
commission whose facility would be the recipient thereof.  
Section 7. Severability  
If any provision of this Ordinance shall be held invalid by a court having  
competent jurisdiction, such invalidity shall not affect any of the other provisions of  
this Ordinance that can be given effect without the invalid provision and for this  
purpose the provisions of the Ordinance are hereby declared severable.  
Section 8. Effective Date  
In accordance with the Town Charter this ordinance shall become  
effective on the twenty-first (21st) day after such publication following its final  
passage.  
Amended, Adopted and Renumbered by the Ledyard Town Council on: __________  
_________________________  
S. Naomi Rodriguez, Chairman  
Approved/Disapproved on: ________  
__________________________  
Fred B. Allyn, III, Mayor  
Published on:  
Effective Date:  
_________________________  
Patricia A. Riley, Town Clerk  
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Revisions: Ordinance #119 “An Ordinance Establishing a Permanent Municipal  
Building Committee for the Town of Ledyard” Adopted March 26, 2008; Ordinance  
#138 “An Ordinance Amending an Ordinance Establishing a Permanent Municipal  
Building Committee for the Town of Ledyard: Adopted June 24, 2015; Effective:  
July 31, 2015; Ordinance renumbered from Ordinance #138 to Ordinance  
#100-015 as part of the Town Council’s 2017-2019 Ordinance Update Initiative;  
September 25, 2019.  
History:  
The Twenty-fourth Town Council (2017- 2019) Ordinance Update Initiative:  
Renumbered Ordinance #138 to Ordinance #100-015.  
2015: Removed the project threshold of $25,000 requiring all capital  
building/improvement projects and projects that are capital in nature; that is, having a  
useful life of five or more years be assigned to the Permanent Municipal Building  
Committee.  
2019: Title - Removed “Ordinance Amending” - Per Town Attorney not required.  
Section 4 added language regarding members attendance relative to  
resignation/replacement. Removed Section 9 “Cancellation” - Per Town Attorney the  
Cancellation Section” was not needed. The “Revisions” and “History” paragraph  
indicates that the previous ordinance has been updated and replaced. Added new  
Section 9 “Effective Date” to be consistent with Town Ordinance format  
2024:  
Section 2 “Purpose” Paragraph 1 replaced the word major with select” and  
Added Paragraphs 2 - 6.  
Section 3: “Membership” Added: Public Works Director, Board of Education  
Director of Facilities and Grounds. Also, the following language was added for  
clarification: “Board of Education Temporary Members shall be appointed by the  
Town Council”.  
Section 5 “Powers and Duties”:  
Paragraph 2- The following language was replaced: The Permanent Municipal  
Building Committee is authorized to interview architects and/or engineers for the  
purpose of planning, designing, building and completing municipal building projects,  
and based on said interviews and cost estimates, to hire suitable candidates. “ When  
an Owner’s Representative is required for the project, the Permanent Building  
Committee shall provide a recommendation for the hiring of an Owner’s  
Representative prior to selecting the architect and/or engineer so that the Owner’s  
Representative may assist with the development of the Request for Proposal, the  
selection process, project control budgets, project schedules, contracts and other  
material necessary to properly solicit comprehensive proposals by interested  
firms”.  
Paragraph 3: Replaced: cost estimates with “budgets” Also added: “However, when  
an Owner’s Representative is required, the Owner’s Representative shall be  
responsible for drafting such schedules and budgets. The Owner’s Representative  
shall also be responsible for developing a project cash flow projection for review by  
the Town Director of Finance  
NEW Paragraph 4  
Paragraph 5 Added the following language: except for school construction grants  
through the Department of Education. Such grant applications are the  
responsibility of the Superintendent of Schools and the Board of Education.  
Moved by Councilor Dombrowski, seconded by Councilor Brunelle  
Discussion: Chairman Rodriguez noted that the Town Council received an email  
from Board of Education Chairman Anthony Favry this morning regarding the  
proposed amendments to Ordinance #100-015 (rev.1) “An Ordinance Establishing a  
Permanent Municipal Building Committee for the Town of Ledyard”. Chairman  
Rodriguez read Chairman Favry’s email as follows:  
From: Anthony Favry <afavry@ledyard.net>  
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2024 7:00 AM  
To: Town Council Group <TownCouncil@ledyardct.org>; town council  
<tcouncil@ledyardct.org>  
Cc: BoE Members <boemembers@ledyard.net>  
Subject: Temporary Board of Education Membership; PMBC  
Good Morning Chairman Rodriguez & Town Councilors,  
We understand that the Administrative Committee is meeting tonight and one  
of the actions on the agenda is regarding Board of Education temporary  
membership on PMBC. Based on agenda posted, it references that the  
temporary Board of Education member shall be appointed by Town Council.  
It is the understanding of the Board of Education that based on House Bill  
5524, which was signed by the Governor this Legislative session and effective  
7/1/24, that temporary member of the building committee (PMBC) shall be  
the School Board Chair, or a designee appointed by the Chair. Reference  
below:  
§ 168 - SCHOOL BUILDING COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP  
Requires that school building committees established to undertake a school  
building project as defined in Section 10-282 include the school board chair  
or a designee.  
The Board wants to make sure Town Council was aware of this prior to  
tonight’s meeting, especially given that this state requirement impacts state  
reimbursements for costs associated with school projects.  
We appreciate your attention to this matter.  
Thank You,  
Anthony Favry  
Chairman, Ledyard Board of Education  
Mayor Allyn, III, stated he reached out to Town Attorney Matt Ritter to questioned  
whether the following language “shall be appointed by Town Council to include the  
school board chair or a designee”, would be problematic. He stated that Attorney  
Ritter stated that the Town Council could appoint the members as long as they were  
the Board of Education’s Chairman and their designee.  
Councilor Dombrowski stated in reviewing the 240-page House Bill 5524 that it did  
not state that the town’s Legislative Body usurped their authority for appointing  
members to the Municipal Building Committee. He stated as Board of Education  
Chairman Favry noted in his email that the House Bill only stated that the Board of  
Education’s representatives had to be the Board of Education’s Chairman or their  
designee. He stated that House Bill 5524it does not state that the Board of Education  
would appoint the member. He stated nowhere does the House Bill usurp Ledyard’s  
Town Charter, which specifies who appoints members to the town’s boards and  
committees. He stated while he acknowledges the following language “include the  
school board chair or a designee” would meet the intent of the House Bill 5524; that  
the final approval for the appointment would come through the Legislature Body  
(Town Council); in accordance with Home Rule Act as well as their Town Charter.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated after last night’s Board of Education Meeting that  
she spoke with School Superintendent Jason Hartling noting the 240-page House Bill  
5524 that was approved by the State Legislature on July 1, 2024 was never brought  
up during the Administration Committee’s July 24, 2024 Joint Work Session or  
during any of their other meetings at which Board of Education Members were  
present. Therefore, she questioned the reason this issue was not brought up earlier.  
Councilor Dombrowski noted that current langue as written was not illegal, stating  
although he was not a lawyer, that what would be illegal would be to allow the Board  
of Education to appoint the members to the Town’s Municipal Building Committee,  
explaining that it would be a violation of their Town Charter.  
The Administration Committee, by consensus, agreed to add the following language  
to Section 3. “Membership”; Paragraph 3 “include the school board chair or a  
designee” as noted in the updated draft dated 9/11/2024 above.  
Chairman Rodriguez also noted that she received an email from Mr. Hosey today,  
who was a member of the Permanent Municipal Building Committee. She read Mr.  
Hosey’s email as follows:  
“From: ghosey924@gmail.com <ghosey924@gmail.com>  
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2024  
To: <NaomiR@ledyardct.org>  
Subject: 100-015  
My thoughts are this:  
· $500,000 is a completely arbitrary, and thus meaningless, number. What is  
the basis for this amount? And why is a specific amount required in the  
first place? Why not simply trust the PMBC to determine when an owner’s  
rep is needed based on the complexity of the project? It makes little or no  
sense that we trust the PMBC to recommend who the owner’s rep should  
be, but not to decide if one is needed.  
· Likewise, while we all respect the powers of the Town Council, it also makes  
no sense that the TC, which sat in on none of the interviews and probably  
read none of the RFP’s, can simply chose to award the contract to a  
different bidder. If TC disagrees with the PMBC choice, the matter should  
come under discussion between TC and PMBC.  
· As already mentioned in the edited draft, there is a consistency problem.  
How can the Mayor be the hiring authority for architects and engineers, but  
the TC be the authority for owner’s reps, which are likely architects or  
engineers by trade? Sounds like no one is the actual hiring authority.  
· Conversely, who is empowered to fire an owner’s rep if that becomes  
necessary? TC? PMBC? Mayor?  
· Voting/quorum is not quite clear to me unless I missed it in my reading.  
Quorum is majority of regular members  
Temp members cannot vote on other projects  
Ok - but if that’s all there is to the voting/quorum rules, can the regular  
members vote on temp item (like police station or school buildings) without  
a temp member being present? That should not be allowed, but it looks like  
it is.  
This is what I can think of right now.  
Thanks  
George Hosey”  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry addressed Mr. Hosey’s comments as follows:  
· Consultant and Construction Contract - Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated that during  
the Administration Committee’s work on the proposed Amendments to Ordinance  
#100-015 (rev.1) “An Ordinance Establishing a Permanent Municipal Building  
Committee for the Town of Ledyard” that she also questioned the reason the  
Consultant was appointed by the Mayor and the Construction Contract was approved  
by the Town Council.  
· Owners Representative - Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stating that the hiring of an  
Owner’s Representative was not a statement that the Town Council does not trust the  
Permanent Municipal Building Committee. She also noted that she agreed with Mr.  
Hosey’s comments about the PMBC reviewing the Contractor’s presentations and  
conducting the interviews relative to the PMBC’s selection; and the ability for the  
Town Council to say that they did not want to select the Contractor recommended by  
the PMBC, when the Town Council did not participate in the interview/selection  
process.  
Councilor Brunelle, Liaison to the Permanent Municipal Building Committee, noted  
that she sat through the Contractors’ Presentations and Interviews with PMBC. She  
stated as an example that during the selection process the PMBC preferred Contractor  
B; however, they said they had to choose Contractor A because they were cheaper.  
Councilor Dombrowski stated that was a misunderstanding of the process or the  
miswriting of the Request for Proposals (RFP) explaining that Ordinance #200-001  
An Ordinance for Purchasing” stated they could select the “Best Value”, which may  
not necessarily be the lowest bidder. He stated the likelihood that the Town Council  
would reject the PMBC selection was slim to none. However, he stated as the  
Fiduciary Responsible Agency for the town that the Town Council ultimately had the  
responsibility to ensure that whoever the PMBC selected was in-fact the best bang for  
the buck.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated that she believed that Mr. Hosey’s comments were  
regarding the selection of an Owners Representative, noting that only two bids were  
received and the PMBC chose one over the other; and requested a Bid Waiver.  
Councilor Dombrowski explained the reason the Finance Committee (Meeting of  
4/5/2023) rejected the PMBC’s request for a Bid Waiver was not because of who the  
PMBC chose. He stated the Finance Committee rejected the Bid Waiver request  
because the PMBC gave one of the bidders an additional bite at the apple to provide  
additional information, but that they did not allow the other bidder the same  
opportunity. Therefore, he stated the Town Council did not reject the Bid Waiver  
request based on the PMBC’s selection; they rejected the bid waiver request because  
the process was not followed. He stated if the Town Council granted the requested  
the Bid Waiver and the other bidder learned that they were not provided the same  
opportunity to submit additional information that the town would have been held  
liable and could have been sued.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry suggested that perhaps the Liaison to the PMBC should be  
a member from the Finance Committee.  
Mr. Gary Schneider, 101 Inchcliffe Drive, Gales Ferry, Permanent Municipal  
Building Committee Chairman, stated in the past that he did not believe there was  
good communication between the PMBC and the Town Council; however, he stated  
that this was beginning to change. He stated the proposed amendments to the  
Ordinance #100-015 (rev.1) “An Ordinance Establishing a Permanent Municipal  
Building Committee for the Town of Ledyard” provided guidance for the Committee  
to follow.  
Mr. Schneider went on to note that the PMBC would work with the Mayor regarding  
the Consultants and with the Town Council on the Construction Contracts. He stated  
although this seemed to be different that the PMBC would work with it. Councilor  
Dombrowski explained that this was related to the Town Council’s fiduciary  
responsibilities, noting that they were responsible for projects, where the Mayor, as  
the Chief Elected Officer (CEO), was the contracting authority, with the Town  
Council’s approval.  
Mr. Schneider stated the PMBC was looking forward to the proposed Ordinance  
amendments being approved. He stated the PMBC recently completed the design  
plan for the Heating Ventilation and the Air Conditioning System (HVAC) for the  
Juliet W. Long School. He stated this was a large project multi-million-dollar project;  
and therefore, they were working to develop the scope of services for a Project  
Manager, noting that they plan to solicit bids this winter (January, 2025) so they  
would be ready to have the HVAC Project ready to be done during the 2025 school  
summer vacation.  
VOTE: 3- 0 Approved and so declared  
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL  
Kevin Dombrowski  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
April Brunelle  
SECONDER:  
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Garcia-Irizarry, Dombrowski and Brunelle  
AYE:  
Discussion and possible action to create an Ethics Commission for the Town of Ledyard.  
2.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry noted that she provided a draft Ordinance for discussion  
this evening using the previous draft ordinance that was worked on 2019 as a starting  
point. She stated that she also reviewed Ethics Commission Ordinances from other  
towns, noting that she tried to include language that would provide guidance for a  
variety of scenarios. She noted the proposed Ordinance included the following:  
· 3-year limitation for when issues could be filed  
· Conflict of Interest  
· Appointment of Members - Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated the members of the  
Ethic Commission should not be elected officials, or appointed members of any  
other town committee or board.  
· Terms of Appointment for the Commission Members  
· Duties  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry noted the following town documents:  
· Town Charter, Chapter III “Town Council” Section 9 “Investigation”  
“The Town Council shall have power to investigate all offices and agencies of the  
Town and for such purposes shall have the power to call witnesses to appear  
before the Town Council to testify on any matter under investigation. The  
Chairman, or chairman pro-tempore, upon authorization of the Town Council,  
shall have the power, for such investigation, to issue subpoenas, and, at his  
request, any judge of the Superior Court may compel the appearance of witnesses  
and the production of books, records, and papers.”  
· Town Charter, Chapter IX “Transition and Miscellaneous Provisions” Section 6  
“Conflict of Interest”  
Any elected or appointed officer or any employee of the Town who has a  
financial interest or personal benefit, direct or indirect, in any contract,  
transaction, or decision of any board or commission to which the Town is a  
party, shall disclose publicly that interest to the appropriate board or  
commission and the Town Council in advance of discussion or action on the  
matter, which shall record such disclosure upon the official record of its  
meetings. The Town Council may by ordinance specify what is, or what is not, a  
conflict of interest for officials and employees of the Town.  
Willful violation by any such officer or employee of the provisions of this section  
shall be grounds for his removal. Violation of this section with the knowledge,  
express or implied, of any person or corporation participating in such contract,  
transaction, or decision shall render the same voidable by the Town Council, or  
by a court of competent jurisdiction.”  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated it was good that these provisions were included in  
the Town Charter, however, they do not address specifics or provide guidance  
regarding the process.  
Councilor Dombrowski stated the Town Council has discussed implementing an  
Ethics Commission several times. However, he explained each time they discussed  
an Ethics Commission the Town Council has decided that because the town already  
had documentation in place, which has been used on more than once instance, that  
proceeding with an Ethics Commission was not warranted. He stated in addition to  
the provisions provided in the Town Charter the Town also had a “Fraud Policy” that  
was adopted on May 28, 2014. Therefore, he stated that he was against setting up  
another board or Ethics Commission, because he believed that it would turn into  
finger pointing and political, for no real gain or benefit. He stated there has been  
nothing in this town that he has seen that would warrant the need for an Ethics  
Commission, noting that the Fraud Policy included a Code of Conduct, which was  
almost the same language that was being proposed in the draft Ethics Commission  
Ordinance. He stated the Town’s Employee Handbook also provided guidelines for  
what employees were not supposed to do. He stated as the Legislative Body that the  
Town Council had the authority to conduct an investigation.  
Councilor Brunelle stated that the town should not necessarily set up an Ethics  
Commission in response to a need. She questioned what if someone on the Town  
Council was the cause for the need for an investigation. Councilor Dombrowski  
stated that it would be addressed by the Mayor’s Office. Councilor Brunelle stated  
what if both the Town Council and the Mayor were involved, noting that would be a  
reason to have an outside source, just in case. Councilor Dombrowski stated that he  
did not like “Just in Case Committees” that sit there and never meet. Councilor  
Brunelle stated that they were working to provide transparency and make things open  
and honest. Councilor Dombrowski stated the town was open and honest in  
everything they do, noting an Ethics Commission does not make open and honest, he  
stated what it makes was finger pointing. He stated although they may not need his  
support, that he would not support an Ethics Commission when they already have  
provisions in the Town Charter, in accordance with State Law, and in the Fraud  
Policy, which has been in effect for 10-years, which covered everything they may  
need to do, in-case there was a problem. He stated the one citizen who requested an  
Ethics Commission was pointing at the Mayor; however, he stated an Ethics  
Commission, in accordance with state statutes, was all about financial gain, stating  
that it was not about hiring or firing employees, noting that the Ethics Commission  
would never discus the performance of an employee who was terminated.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated to the best of her knowledge that Ledyard was one of  
a few towns that does not have an Ethics Commission. She stated a lot of towns in  
Connecticut have an Ethics Commission. She stated that the Ethics Commission may  
never meet and that she would love that to be the case. She stated the reason they  
have a Town Charter was to provide procedures, noting that the same would be true  
for an Ethics Commission.  
Mayor Allyn, III, stated putting an Ethics Commission in-place would be a political  
move, noting that it was certainly leveled at him for the firing of a specific employee,  
He asked whether the Ethics Commission override the Town Charter language, or  
would the Fraud Policy supersede the Ordinance, questioning which document would  
they follow. Councilor Garcia-Irizarry responded stating that the Ethics Commission  
would conduct the investigation and then submit their findings the appropriate body,  
noting if it was an employee issue, it would go the Mayor, and other cases would go  
to the Town Council. Councilor Dombrowski stated that they would have to change  
the Town Charter to include the establishment of an Ethics Commission, explaining  
that they would be taking the authority away from the Town Council and assigning it  
to the Ethics Commission. He stated that they would also need to strike some  
language from the Town Charter.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated that she would like to ask the Town Attorney to  
review the proposed Ordinance and the Town Charter. She suggested the language in  
the draft Ordinance could be changed to state that the Town Council would be the  
final authority to be in compliance with the Town Charter.  
Councilor Brunelle stated that the intent to create an Ethics Commission was not to  
go against the Town Charter. Councilor Dombrowski stated that he agreed that he  
did not think anyone was trying to go against the Town Charter. Councilor Brunelle  
stated that the Committee should take more time to review the proposed Ordinance  
Establishing an Ethics Commission and to determine the best way forward.  
Mayor Allyn addressed the 3-year limit to submit a violation for an investigation. He  
questioned as an example what if a violation was filed against a member of the Town  
Council and during the time of the investigation, the Councilor’s term expired,  
whether the investigation would continue. He questioned what authority the Ethics  
Commission would have over a non-serving Town Councilor. Councilor  
Garcia-Irizarry stated that this was something that they would need to think about.  
Councilor Dombrowski stated as Councilor Garcia-Irizarry noted that the 3-year time  
limit was notional and could be discussed. He also stated that these rules would  
apply to all board and commissions or any volunteer who was serving the town, as  
well as the employees. It was noted that the same was true for the provisions in the  
Town Charter and in the Fraud Policy, that rules would apply to employees, elected  
officials, and appointed members who volunteer to serve the town.  
Councilor Buhle stated that she would be against a “statute of limitations” because  
someone, who may have done something that was not ethical could benefit 4,5,6  
years after they were no longer serving the town. Councilor Dombrowski stated that  
they would need to look at the state statutes to see if there was a statute of limitations  
for ethical conduct.  
Mayor Allyn noted the proposed language in in the draft Ordinance regarding the  
“Hearing” section as follows:  
“The Ethics Commission shall conduct a hearing to determine if a violation of the  
Code has occurred. All hearings will be open to the public and recorded.”  
Mayor Allyn stated this provision had the ability to damage someone’s reputation, “if  
a violation has occurred”, noting at that point they would not even know if a  
violation has occurred. He stated that this could change someone’s life all on an  
“IF”. However, he stated at that point it would have been all public information.  
Chairman Rodriguez stated that the Town Charter gives the Mayor jurisdiction over  
employees, noting that they did not want to talk employee matters publicly.  
Councilor Dombrowski stated the proposed ordinance as written, would talk about  
the employee matters in public.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated the proposed Ordinance was a draft for discussion as  
a starting point, noting that she was looking to obtain input from everyone.  
Councilor Dombrowski encouraged members of the Administration Committee to  
review the state statutes. He stated that this was the first time the Administration  
Committee has discussed the drafting of an Ordinance to establish an Ethics  
Commission. He stated the real question was do they think they have a need for an  
Ethics Commission.  
MOTION to pursue establishing an Ethics Commission.  
Moved by Councilor Brunelle, seconded by Councilor Garcia-Irizarry  
Discussion: Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated that she would like to continue a  
discussion regarding the establishment of an Ethics Commission; and did not think  
they needed to vote to have a discussion.  
Councilor Brunelle withdrew the Motion.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated that the Administration Committee would continue  
to discuss the draft “Ordinance Establishing an Ethic Commission” at their October  
9, 2024 meeting. She asked that Councilors forward their comments and  
recommendations to her.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
Any other Old Business proper to come before the Committee  
None.  
3.  
VII. NEW BUSINESS  
1.  
MOTION to set a Hybrid (In-Person & Video Conference) Public Hearing date on October 23,  
2024 at 6:30 p.m. to be held in the Council Chambers, 741 Colonel Ledyard Highway, to receive  
comments and recommendations regarding proposed Amendments to Ordinance #100-015  
(rev.1) “An Ordinance Establishing a Permanent Municipal Building Committee for the Town of  
Ledyard” as presented in the draft dated July 24, 2024.  
Moved by Councilor Dombrowski, seconded by Councilor Brunelle  
Discussion: Councilor Dombrowski stated in accordance with Chapter III; Section 5 of  
the Town Charter that “…….one public hearing shall be held by the Town Council  
before any ordinance shall be passed”.  
VOTE: 3- 0 Approved and so declared  
A motion was made by Dombrowski, seconded by Brunelle, that this be Recommended for  
Approval to the Town Council, due back on 9/25/2024. The motion carried by the following  
vote:  
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL  
Kevin Dombrowski  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
April Brunelle  
SECONDER:  
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Garcia-Irizarry, Dombrowski and Brunelle  
AYE:  
MOTION to approve a proposed “Town of Ledyard Digital Sign Use Policy” as presented in the  
2.  
draft dated 9/4/2024.  
DRAFT: 9/4/2024  
Policy #2024-XXX  
Town of Ledyard  
Digital Sign Use Policy  
1. POLICY STATEMENT  
The Town of Ledyard is committed to providing residents and visitors with accurate and  
appropriate information through the use of digital signage. The digital signs shall be  
used to disseminate information about town sponsored events, special town meetings,  
referendums and other public messages from the municipality.  
2. SCOPE  
This policy applies to the design, approval and content management of municipally  
owned and/or operated outdoor digital signs located in the Town of Ledyard.  
3. PURPOSE  
(a) This policy facilitates effective digital communication tools for community  
messaging  
(b) The policy provides direction for the appropriate use of digital signage in the  
municipality  
(c) This policy defines who may submit requests for messaging on digital municipal  
signs  
4. POLICY  
The Town of Ledyard’s digital sign conveys information to the public as a representative  
of the municipality, and therefore will be operated in a manner that represents the Town  
of Ledyard positively. Total content will be limited to a maximum of 10 slides displayed  
at any one time with a maximum exposure of 10 seconds per slide. The Town offers no  
guarantee with the respect to the appearance of any messages on the digital sign, exact  
color matches or the length of time that the message will be displayed. Appearance of  
messages is subject to constraints of priorities, as well as electronic limitations. All  
content must adhere to the State of Connecticut Department of Transportation Highway  
Signing Guidelines.  
The following system of hierarchy shall be utilized in selecting messages to be posted:  
(a) Emergency Messages - in the event of an emergency, the Town reserves the right to  
suspend all messages and use signage for emergency purposes only  
(b) Messages from the Town of Ledyard  
(c) Town sponsored events  
(d) Community events hosted and/or sponsored by a non-profit organization located  
within the Town of Ledyard  
The following messages shall not be permitted to be posted on the digital sign:  
(a) Political or religious messages, promotion or advertising  
(b) Private sector messages, whether from an individual, group, organization or business  
(c) Events and/or functions open only to members of an organization  
5. SUBMITTING A REQUEST  
Subject to availability, the digital signs may be used by a non-profit registered in the  
Town of Ledyard to announce events or special programs on a first come, first serve  
basis. Requests to utilize municipal digital signage must be submitted to the Mayor’s  
Office using the town-provided request form. All requests must be submitted at least (1)  
week prior to the requested posting date. Messages will be posted for a maximum of (2)  
weeks prior to the event, depending on availability, and approval by the Mayor.  
6. RESPONSIBILITY  
The Mayor’s Office will be responsible for design and management of all digital content.  
The Mayor’s Office may designate representatives from Town Departments to create  
content. The Mayor’s Office shall ensure all information, photos, and designs submitted  
for posting meet a professional standard consistent with the Town of Ledyard. The  
Mayor shall have the authority and sole discretion to deny use of the sign based upon  
availability or to groups whose mission or purpose is deemed to be offensive or against  
the best interest of the town.  
*Gales Ferry Volunteer Fire Company may designate a representative(s) to add and  
update fire company related content to the “GFFC Playlist”.  
7. EFFECTIVE DATE  
The “Town of Ledyard Digital Sign Use Policy” shall become effective upon adoption.  
Adopted by the Ledyard Town Council on: ______________2024  
____________________________________  
S. Naomi Rodriguez, Chairman  
TOWN OF LEDYARD  
DIGITAL SIGN USE RESERVATION FORM  
If there is availability, the digital signs may be used by a non-profit registered in the  
Town of Ledyard to announce events or special programs on a first come, first serve  
basis. All requests must be submitted at least (1) week prior to the requested posting  
date. Messages will be posted for a maximum of (2) weeks depending on availability,  
and approval by the Mayor.  
Today’s Date: ________________  
Organization Name:___________________________________  
Organizations Address: ___________________________________________________  
Contact Name: _________________________  
Contact Email:______________________________  
Name of Event: _________________________  
Date(s) of Event:_____________________________  
Hours of Event: ________________  
Description of Event (Please briefly describe the event)  
______________________________________________________________________  
_
______________________________________________________________________  
_
______________________________________________________________________  
_
Please email the completed form to mayoral.asst@ledyardct.org  
<mailto:mayoral.asst@ledyardct.org> along with any images related to the event.  
Acceptance of a request does not guarantee that the announcement will appear on  
either sign as the Town reserves the right to use of the signs for emergency purposes.  
Moved by Councilor Garcia-Irizarry, seconded by Councilor Dombrowski  
Discussion: Mayor Allyn, III, stated the second digital message sign has been finally  
installed in Ledyard Center in front of the Town Green. He stated both signs were on the  
same platform explaining that the same message would now be displayed on the sign on  
Route 12 in front of the Gales Ferry Fire Department; and in Ledyard Center. He stated  
Executive Assistant Kristen Chapman has been working on the brightness and colors of  
the signs along with creating the slides. He stated the signs were purchased with  
American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) Funding with the main purpose to display  
emergency messages. However, he stated when there were no emergencies that the signs  
would be used for other opportunities such as the Ledyard Farmers Market, Library  
Book Sale, and major Referendums such as the Annual Budget Referendum, and  
Elections, etc. He stated the Policy outlines the hierarchy of the messages noting that  
Emergency Messages would take precedence, then Messages from the Town of Ledyard,  
Town Events such as the Senior Centers Senior Prom, and Community Events, such as  
Trunk or Treat, etc. He stated that the Policy also addresses messages that would not be  
posted on the message sign which included Politic and Religious, promotional or  
advertising, private messaging. He stated because it takes some time to prepare the  
slides to post on the digital sign that regular meetings of the town’s committees and  
boards would not be posted on the message sign.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry questioned whether Public Hearings would be posted on the  
message sign. Mayor Allyn stated Public Hearings for the Annual Budget would be  
posted; however, Public Hearings for things such as Land Use Applications would not  
be posted on the message signs. He stated the Town’s on-line Meeting Portal was a  
much better platform for those types of meetings. He also noted that residents could  
register on-line and receive all the meeting notifications to their email or to their cell  
phone.  
Councilor Dombrowski suggested the digital message sign provide information for  
residents to visit the Town’s website for meeting information.  
Councilor Brunelle addressed the posting of community events and non-profit  
organizations such as the Senior Center’s Senior Prom. She questioned whether the  
town was worried that other residents would take offence that they were not being  
represented because they were not senior citizens. Mayor Allyn stated that he did not  
think that residents would be offended; explaining that the same could be true for the  
Parks & Recreation Easter Egg Hunt, noting that it was geared toward younger children.  
VOTE: 3- 0 Approved and so declared  
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL  
Carmen Garcia-Irizarry  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Kevin Dombrowski  
SECONDER:  
3
Garcia-Irizarry, Dombrowski and Brunelle  
AYE:  
MOTION to appoint Ms. Cynthia Wright (D) 6 Laurel Leaf Drive, Gales Ferry to the Library  
Commission to complete a two (2) year term ending November 7, 2025 filling a vacancy left by  
Mr. Cronin.  
3.  
Moved by Councilor Dombrowski, seconded by Councilor Brunelle  
Discussion: Councilor Garcia-Irizarry explained that Ms. Wright had submitted her  
application to serve on the Library Commission several months ago. However, she stated  
because they had received several Applications and they only had one vacancy to fill, that  
Ms. Wright’s Application was kept on-file for the next time the Library Commission had  
a vacancy. She stated that Ms. Wright has Master of Library Science and Public  
Administration from the University of Rhode Islan. She stated that Ms. Wright was  
currently retired but worked as a librarian at the Groton Public Library for 27-years,  
noting that she would be a good fit for the Library Commission.  
Councilor Dombrowski thanked Mr. Cronin for his service to the Town. Councilor  
Garcia-Irizarry stated Mr. Cronin did a great job and that the Library Commission was  
sad to see him retire.  
VOTE: 3- 0 Approved and so declared  
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL  
Kevin Dombrowski  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
April Brunelle  
SECONDER:  
3
Garcia-Irizarry, Dombrowski and Brunelle  
AYE:  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated in the interest of time that she would defer their  
discussion regarding Item #4 to the Administration Committee’s October 9, 2024  
meeting, noting that the Town Council had a Public Hearing scheduled for 6:30 p.m. this  
evening.  
Discussion and possible action to draft an Ordinance regarding the raising of  
Unofficial-Third-Party Flags on Town Property.  
4.  
5.  
NO ACTION  
RESULT:  
Any other New Business proper to come before the Committee.  
None.  
IV  
ADJOURNMENT  
Councilor Dombrowski moved the meeting be adjourned, seconded by Councilor  
Brunelle.  
VOTE:  
3 - 0 Approved and so declared, the meeting was adjourned at 6:29 p.m.  
Respectfully submitted,  
Carmen Garcia-Irizarry  
Committee Chairman  
Administration Committee  
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