741 Colonel Ledyard Highway  
Ledyard, Connecticut 06339  
TOWN OF LEDYARD  
Finance Committee  
Meeting Minutes  
Chairman Gary St. Vil  
Regular Meeting  
Wednesday, March 4, 2026  
5:00 PM  
Town Hall Annex Building - Hybrid  
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I
CALL TO ORDER  
the Meeting was called to order by Committee Chairman Councilor Buhle at 5:04  
p.m. at the Council Chambers Town Hall Annex Building.  
Councilor Buhle welcomed all to the Hybrid Meeting. She stated for the Town  
Council Finance Committee and members of the Public who were participating via  
video conference that the remote meeting information was available on the Agenda  
that was posted on the Town’s Website - Granicus-Legistar Meeting Portal.  
II.  
ROLL CALL  
Jessica Buhle  
Present:  
Carmen Garcia-Irizarry  
Tim Ryan  
In addition, the following were present:  
Gary St. Vil Town Council Chairman  
Bill Barnes Town Councilor  
Ty LambTown Councilor  
Adrienne Parad Town Councilor  
Fred Allyn, IIMI ayor  
Matthew Bonin Finance Director  
Jon MannLedyard Center Fire chief  
Brandon Graber Board of Education Member  
Roxanne Maher Administrative Assistant  
III.  
RESIDENTS & PROPERTY OWNERS COMMENTS  
Councilor Buhle noted that they had a lot of residents present this evening who were  
excited to speak to the Finance Committee. She stated before she opened the floor for  
Residents and Property Owners' Comments”; that she wanted to note that New  
Business Item #4 pertaining to Public Act 24-46 “An Act Establishing a Property Tax  
Exemption for Veterans Who Have a Service-Connected Permanent and Total Disability  
Rating” relative to modifications to the Program; was only for discussion this  
evening. She stated that the Finance Committee had no intention to take action on the  
attached draft “An Ordinance to Provide a For a Cap on the Real Property Tax  
Exemption For Veterans With a Service-Connected Permanent And Total Disability  
Rating”. She ; explained that based on the Finance Committee’s January 21, 2026  
discussion regardingall of the tax exemptions that apply to the town and how they  
were working for their residents, families, and their community, that Administrative  
Assistant Roxanne Maher drafted the proposed Ordinance, which was similar to an  
Ordinance that the Town of Stonington adopted on September 24, 2025.  
Councilor Buhle proceed to open the floor, asking that residents keep their comments  
to three minutes to allow everyone the opportunity to speak, noting that there was  
another meeting following the Finance Committee’s meeting this evening at 7:00  
p.m.  
Mr. M. Dave Schroder, Jr. 290 Whalehead Road, Gales Ferry, commented on the  
proposed Fiscal Year 2026/2027 Budget which included a total of $150,000 (fy 26/27  
$75,000 & fy 27/28 $75,000) to hire a third-party Consultant to prepare the Town’s  
Plan of Conservation & Development (POCD). He stated under Connecticut Law, the  
POCD was fundamentally a planning document, a long-term vision for the  
community. He stated in towns with a separate Planning Commission that updating  
the POCD was a core function of planning and a central responsibility of a Planning  
Commission. He the fact that they were being asked to outsource this responsibility  
was, in effect, an acknowledgement that Ledyard’s Combined Planning and Zoning  
Commission does not have sufficient time to properly fulfill both roles. He stated  
rather than spending $150,000 to compensate for this organizational constraint, He  
urged the Finance Committee to consider a more cost-effective and sustainable  
solution; and strike the third-party Consultant line from the proposed Fiscal Year  
2026/2027 Budget, and support the separation of the combined commission into two  
distinct bodies.  
Mr. Dave Collins, 37 Chriswood Trace, Ledyard, stated that he was a Veteran and he  
was present to comment on New Business Item #4 on tonight’s Agenda, regarding  
Public Act 24-46 An Act Establishing a Property Tax Exemption for Veterans Who  
Have a Service-Connected Permanent and Total Disability Rating” relative to  
modifications to the Program; and the draft Ordinance to Provide a For a Cap on the  
Real Property Tax Exemption For Veterans With a Service-Connected Permanent  
And Total Disability Rating”. He stated that he was glad to hear that the Finance  
Committee did not plan to act on proposed Ordinance this evening. He stated that  
1,200 Veterans live in Ledyard not counting the number of active duty members, He  
stated the 2024 Census reported that while the average income for Ledyard Families  
was $111,000; that the average income for Veterans was $90,000. He stated that he  
hoped the Finance Committee would consider his points and the income disparity as  
they discuss modifying Public Act 24-46.  
Mr. Ryan Landry, Veterans Representative for Ledyard, stated he was a U.S. Army  
Combat Veteran, with a 100% Permanent & Totally (P&T) Rating, and that received  
a Special Monthly Compensation. He stated that he was originally from Ledyard,  
noting when his Grandfather got out of the Navy he settled down, and built a family  
here; and therefore, Ledyard had a special place in his heart. He stated as they looked  
at him today, they would not see somebody with a Traumatic Brian Injury (TBI). He  
stated that they would not see somebody that struggled with employment, leaving a  
police career which he started in 2013; with seven-years left to be able to retire with a  
pension. He stated because of his TBI he had to find a different job; which he did  
with Easter Seals, noting that he now helps Veterans and others in the community  
with disabilities.  
Mr. Landry went on to explain that he along with other Veterans in this Town and  
across the State have received a Permanent and Total Status (P&T); which means  
that the Veterans Affairs (VA) recognizes that they have sustained service connected  
injuries that were not going to improve. He also noted that those with a Total  
Disability Individual Unemployability Status (TDIU) from the Veterans Affairs (VA)  
were significantly limited to have any salary come into the household for the veteran  
in that family.  
Mr. Landry continued by stating that there were a number of new provisions being  
considered in Hartford for Public Act #24-46 which would extend benefits, including  
TDIU benefits to Gold Star Spouses. He also noted there was more to come that may  
refund Municipalities for the taxes they were losing with the implementation of  
Public Act #24-46. He stated for centuries; with the New London-Groton Submarine  
Base, that Ledyard has been a home for many Veterans after their service. He stated  
that they want to continue that for the their Veterans and for the future of Ledyard.  
Mr. Landry concluded his comments by stating instead of putting a cap on the  
benefits provided by Public Act #24-46 that Ledyard support their Veteran and  
Military Community by extending the tax exemption, noting by doing that it would  
speak volumes to those in this Chamber tonight. He stated that he and the many  
others present this evening came out just for the discussion, and that they would  
continue to come out because this was important to them and it was important to their  
community, the place where they live. He stated that he appreciated the Finance  
Committee’s time, and thanked all those who came out this evening. He encouraged  
the Finance Committee to listen to their community.  
Mr. Jeff Eilenberger, 2 Village Drive, Ledyard, shared a story noting that when he  
was 14-years old he was forced to read All things Shakespeare , noting that his take  
away was “My life's words to thine own self be true”. He stated this week he found  
himself asking who he was going to be truthful to; Who was he going to be loyal to.  
He stated it was tough for the town to lose $2 million in tax revenues, thanks to  
Senator Cathy Osten and the State of Connecticut. However, he stated that he also  
thought about his older brother and his friends who were Drafted to serve during the  
Vietnam War; some not coming home from the War; and some who came home  
missing things. He stated that they all have to work within their household budgets,  
noting at one time he worked three jobs to figure his budget out; noting that he made  
it work. He encouraged the Finance Committee not to move forward with the  
implementing a Cap Median Assessed Valuation of residential real property with  
regard to the benefits provided to their 100% Permanently and Totally Disabled as  
provided in Public Act 24-46; noting that there was too many people depending on  
us, because we depended on them.  
Mr. Brian Osbourne stated that there was a lack of transparency in town, noting the  
information that the Finance Committee was discussing Public Act #24-45 did not  
get out to the community in the most efficient fashion. He stated in 2026 that using a  
town website was antiquated, because it required them to click 3 or 4 different links  
just find out something. He stated they learned about tonight’s discussion regarding  
Public Act #24-45 by happenstance; and people started to spread the information. He  
stated that it was very disheartening that nobody knew about it beforehand, noting  
that the Finance Committee discussed it at their January 21, 2026 meeting; and were  
talking about it  
again tonight. He stated that people use different means to get information, and that  
he thought the most efficient way was to use social media. He in the Navy, they get  
told to do things all the time, and that often they were faced with challenges, and had  
to come with solutions. He stated that Ledyard had two different forums on  
Facebook; the Gales Ferry Forum and the Ledyard Forum, noting that the Town only  
needed one Social Media Forum. He suggested the Town have a locked Facebook  
Page that was bipartisan, noting that it would not have to be Democrat or Republican  
or Independent; where they could post things; but people could not ask questions. He  
stated that would allow people to go straight to Town Facebook Page and look at it,  
advertise it widely, so that they don't have to go onto the website and fish through  
layers upon layers upon layers of stuff. He stated that scroll through at Facebook,  
Instagram, etc. all the time, or Instagram, or pick a thing. He stated if people were  
looking for the next hairdresser, or barbershop, that they were no longer looking for  
websites anymore; they were going to social media sites. He concluded his comments  
by noting that using Social Media instead of the town’s website was his idea for a  
solution, where they could put information like this, for people to come out to  
meetings. He stated if they used a Social Media site that they would end up with a lot  
less problems in this town where people feel that transparency was a problem.  
Mr. Kyle Mobley, 20 Queen Eleanor Drive, Gales Ferry, noted that he submitted a  
letter via email to the Town Council on March 4, 2026 regarding Public Act 24-46  
(formerly House Bill 5491). He provided a summary of his letter noting that no  
Veteran in Ledyard actually receives a full tax credit as Public Act #24-45 was  
currently written. He stated that he understands that the Tax Assessor was not present  
this evening to field questions; or give information on the financial status. He stated  
the draft “An Ordinance to Provide a For a Cap on the Real Property Tax Exemption  
For Veterans With a Service-Connected Permanent And Total Disability Rating”  
attached to tonight’s Agenda showed that there was disconnect between the Finance  
Committee and the Town's Tax Assessor's Office, which was exasperated by Tax  
Assessor's Office not providing the current amount in her answers to the Finance  
Committee’s questions. He stated that more discussion regarding the actual numbers,  
including what the new mil rate was going to be for the town based on the 2026  
Revaluation, noting that the current mil rate was 37.14. He stated that the town  
needed to figure-out all the facts to properly assess modifications the program  
provided by Public Act #24-45.  
Mr. Jim Kelley, 17 Winthrop Road, Gales Ferry, stated that he felt like a mushroom,  
because time and time again, they get fed the same things that mushrooms do. He  
stated that he does not understand when things like the 2026 Revaluation were being  
done that the Finance Committee did not do anything to preempt the impact; or  
recognize that it was going to cause a problem noting that people were going to freak  
out because they do not understand how the Property Revaluation worked. He stated  
a letter from the Finance Committee Chairman to explain to residents how the  
Revaluation was going to work would have saved the Finance Committee a lot of  
aggravation, noting that they now had to do cleanup.  
Mr. Kelley went on to say now the Finance Committee was discussing putting a cap  
on Public Act #24-45 stating that this was not well publicized at all; noting that it  
would be nice if they felt that they could trust their elected officials to do the right  
thing. He stated Ledyard had a lot of Navy Veterans, and he commented that he  
found it disgusting that the Finance Committee has now come up with this idea to  
balance the mess that Hartford created on the back of their Veterans. He questioned  
whether anyone from the Town, the Mayor, town Council Chairman, Finance  
Committee, go to Hartford to testify when this they were discussing Public Act  
#24-45; or to meet with their State Representatives or State Senator to voice their  
concerns about how Public Act would impact Ledyard. He also questioned who  
authored the draft “An Ordinance to Provide a For a Cap on the Real Property Tax  
Exemption For Veterans With a Service-Connected Permanent And Total Disability  
Rating”; and who in their right mind would try to sneak it under as a midnight  
surprise on the Veterans in their town. He stated that they had to know that they  
would get blowback, noting that tonight was just a small sampling. He stated that he  
could guarantee that if anyone on this Committee voted to implement a Cap on  
Public Act #24-45 that when the elections come, they probably would not be  
reelected. He stated that he wanted answers on how this came about.  
Councilor Buhle responded to Mr. Kelley, stating when they get to New Business  
Item #4 on tonight’s Agenda that she would talk about how the idea to Cap Public  
Act #24-45. However, she explained that this portion of the meeting was the time for  
public comment.  
Mr. Michael Gabriel, 11 Friar Tuck Road, Gales Ferry, stated that he was an active  
duty member of the United States Navy, and has had the privilege to live in Ledyard  
for seven-years. He stated he was present this evening to speak about the proposal to  
remove the property tax exemption for disabled Veterans. He stated that he did not  
know how municipal budgets worked, noting that he work on submarines and tries to  
put warheads on foreheads. He stated that he did not envy the Finance Committee’s  
responsibility, but thought that it was important for them to understand what policies  
like this one would mean for the people they affect. He stated for Disabled Veterans  
and Active Duty Members that most of their struggles do not show on the outside,  
noting that some carry physical injuries; while others carry the weight of experiences.  
He stated unless they have served or lived through those circumstances, that it was  
difficult to fully understand what some of Veterans have gone through. He stated that  
the tax exemptions were not handouts, noting that it was a small acknowledgement  
of service and sacrifice the he believe they have earned. He stated that it was an  
opportunity for the community to recognize some of the people and the burdens that  
they have gone through, and would live with long after the uniform comes off. He  
stated that Ledyard sits next to the Submarine Capital of the World; and the Active  
Duty Members and Veterans are part of the community, they volunteer to coach  
youth sports, they support local businesses, and they try to be good neighbors. If  
stated if the town removes benefits that support Veterans, people like him would  
seriously consider living in surrounding towns where the cost of living was be  
cheaper, noting that the loss of a good neighbor may be far greater than a simple tax  
dollar in a yearly budget  
Mr. Mark Jones, 202 Whalehead Road, Ledyard, stated during their military careers  
many of them have bounced all over the place, noting that he began his Navy career  
in Pensacola Florida, then went to Virginia, San Diego California, Massimo Japan,  
and Bahrain. He stated when he decided to hang up the uniform and to continue to  
serve his country as a civilian, he chose to live in Southeastern Connecticut. He  
stated when Connecticut passed Public Act #24-45 to provide a tax exemption benefit  
for Disabled Veterans, that was when he decided to stay. He stated that he always  
thought Veterans were like the old guys, like his Grandfather, and then one day when  
he woke up, he realized that he was a veteran. He stated if they were going to change  
the tax exemption benefit that it would not only affect old guys, but that it would also  
affect young men and women, their kids, and the next generation that were going to  
be the veterans. He stated that they were building the most high-tech machines ever  
made by the human race just down the river, in Groton, and that they do not want to  
lose that brain power, noting that the best people that builds submarines were the  
ones that operated submarines. Therefore, he stated that they do not want their  
Veterans to leave their community, noting keeping the tax exemption benefit  
provided by Public Act #24-45 was a to keep their community together.  
Mr. Raymond Costa, 25 Eagle Ridge Drive, Gales Ferry, thanked everyone for the  
great turnout this evening, noting that he served in the U.S. Army. He stated that he  
did not know that this was going on. until he heard from Veterans Representative  
Ryan Landry . He stated that he left the Army rather abruptly, noting that he was  
medically retired, and did not retire after 20- years of service. He stated that his life  
was turned upside down in everything that he thought he was going to do. He stated  
luckily he had family that was working at Electric Boat-General Dynamics, and that  
he lived them for a year and a half while he was looking for a place to live, noting  
that he eventually settled in Gales Ferry because of the tightness of the town. He  
stated like other folks mentioned this evening, his family was involved in the sports  
communities, the schools, noting that he had two elementary school children. He  
stated they loved love the schools, the community, everything about Gales Ferry,  
and Ledyard noting that it was similar to East Haven, which was the town where he  
grew; and as a kid he remembered his family being involved in their community.  
However, he stated that East Haven, like Ledyard, had a very high mill rate. He  
stated that Veterans were already limited in a lot of ways with their income and their  
abilities to do things; and when they put both of those things together, that it was not  
a great recipe. He stated that Ledyard already had one of the highest mill rates, noting  
that Public Act #24-45 went into effect October 1, 2024; and although it has only  
been one-year that the Town was already considering chopping it. He stated that he  
appreciated the Finance Committee opening up the discussion and allowing them to  
speak.  
Mr. Terry Hinkle, 38 Eagle Ridge Drive, Gales Ferry, stated that he served in the  
U.S. Navy for 24-years, and that he was now finishing up Teaching 22 -years at Fitch  
High School in Groton. He as Public Act #24-45 was published that they could see  
that it was a work in progress. He that he was a science guy, not a finance guy;  
because he worked for a School District he understands that they have to consider  
how much money do they have; and therefore, he understood the limitations. He  
stated in Connecticut General Assembly and Office of Legislative Research which  
explained the language in Public Act #24-45 and what the Bill was supposed to do.  
However, he stated in reading the draft “An Ordinance to Provide a For a Cap on the  
Real Property Tax Exemption For Veterans With a Service-Connected Permanent  
And Total Disability Rating”; that they had no idea what they were talking about or  
where they were going. He noted Section 2 “Purpose” was for the Town of Ledyard  
to set a limit on the total amount of the exemption granted under Public Act 24-46 in  
accordance with Connecticut General Assembly House Bill #7287” stating that it did  
not make any sense to him. He stated that those in the Military like short, simple  
answers; and he commented that the Finance Committee does not financially know  
what the cap would mean; stating that was where  
the confusion and the frustration was coming from this evening. He questioned what  
would happen if Ledyard enforce the tax exemption cap, and then the State takes the  
law off the records. He stated if Ledyard was not going to give the Veterans the tax  
exemption that he was heading to Florida, noting that they treat veterans a little bit  
better than here.  
Mr. Karen O’Donnell, 31 Iron Street, Ledyard, thanked everyone for attending  
tonight’s Finance Committee. She stated that she learned that the Finance Committee  
was discussing Public Act #24-45 because someone forwarded it to her; and that she  
spread the word. She stated that she was a Navy Hospital Nurse Corpsman and that  
changes to Public Act #24-45 would 100% affect her, mentally, physically, and in  
every way. She stated that she came here in 1986; and has lived in Ledyard since  
1992 noting that this town was where everybody she loved was, the Veterans of  
Foreign Wars (VFW); the New London-Groton Submarine Base, noting that this was  
her support system. She stated if the cap on the tax exemption goes into effect that  
she was going to have to go back to paying her taxes; and that she would not be able  
to afford my home. She stated that she would have to move to North Carolina.  
Ms. Diane Contino, 231 Lambtown Road, Ledyard, stated the problem was that the  
Town committed themselves, without knowing everything about the Public Act  
#24-45 program, noting that letters were sent out, and Veterans received tax bills that  
said zero or half of that. She noted the 2026 Revaluation, noting that there were  
people in this town whose property prices went up; but not for the rich people, noting  
that they were not paying their fair share. She stated her assessment on her house  
went from $250,000 to $700,000. She stated that she had three bedrooms, two and a  
half baths, no garage, no air, no finished basement; and that her tax bill would be  
more than elected official who was at the top of their town. She stated that they had  
to not look at what they know, but who they know; and they had to stick together.  
She stated that the town people were going to want to raise; and she questioned  
whether they were all getting a raise, commenting that they got shafted. She stated  
that they go to the VA Hospital every week because her husband has Agent Orange  
for lung cancer yesterday, they were taken aside by staff from the VA hospital to  
inform them that the VA was looking to cut their benefits. She stated if they do not  
speak up, if they have a disability and they drank and smoked, that they were going to  
use that against them. She stated that they needed to pay attention to what all their  
Veterans Benefits were, and the people that were giving those benefits, to make sure  
they tell them the whole truth.  
Mr. Ryan Landry, Veterans Representative for Ledyard, stated the one question that  
they have not answered was the number of Veterans that qualified for the tax  
exemption under Public Act #24-45. Councilor Buhle stated that Ledyard had 108  
Veterans that qualified for the program. Mr. Landry stated that they could discus  
capping the tax exemption not to exceed the median assessed valuation of residential  
real property within the Town of Ledyard; however, they also had to look at the  
percent of 100% P&T, and the extension to TDIU, explaining that someone could be  
30% TDIU and not be able to get a job; because they were significantly impacted.  
Therefore, he stated that they needed to further discuss whether the tax exemption  
was truly affecting the town as a whole. He questioned whether they were talking  
$800,000 or $1 million in tax exemptions. He stated based on 108 to 117 homes;  
what does that tax exemption look like, so they could have a better educated decision  
moving forward with this before the Finance Committee made a decision.  
Mr. Lee Page, 7 Flat Brook Court, Gales Ferry, asked for their next meeting whether  
they could provide handouts regarding the number of Veterans that qualified for the  
tax exemption program under Public Act #24-45; the median house value, the  
number of veteran homes that were above the median value; the loss of tax revenues  
by providing 100% tax exemption compared to the loss of tax revenue under the  
capped proposal. He also suggested that perhaps they could show the data on a screen  
so they could see the bell curve of who this was helping. He also suggested that they  
have a larger meeting location because he would expect that they would be twice as  
many residents who were present this evening. amount of bedrooms next time.  
Ms. Kate DiPalma-Herb, 20 August Meadows, Ledyard, stated that Public Act  
#24-45 was introduced at the State level to recognize the sacrifices made by Disabled  
Veterans. She stated although the Public Act does not speak to income requirements,  
that she has heard and read a lot of public comments suggesting that the income of  
these Disabled Veterans should be taken into account.  
Ms. DiPalma-Herb continued by questioning if income was part of the equation,  
where does that end? Is it just the individual veteran? Does that include their  
household income? What if the veteran spouse works outside of the home? Should  
the spouse's income disqualify the permanently disabled veteran from receiving a tax  
exemption meant to recognize the sacrifice they have made in their service to this  
country? She asked when people make these comments, that they please consider that  
income was temporary; but that their health conditions were permanent.  
Ms. DiPalma-Herb went on to state that the Public Act #24-45 Legislation was  
introduced and passed to recognize the sacrifices disabled veterans have made for  
their country. She stated for her family that sacrifice was felt every day. She stated  
her husband served on five submarines and completed a tour in Iraq. She stated those  
deployments and countless days and nights of standing duty did not just amount to  
missed birthdays and lost time with family. She stated that those assignments  
exposed her husband, the father of her children, to toxic chemicals, burn pits, and  
working conditions that damaged his body in countless ways, noting that she would  
not go through the full list. She stated ten-months after her husband retired, he was  
diagnosed with kidney cancer, noting that he was 39-years old. She explained that  
their doctor told them that this was a cancer that does not normally show up until you  
were in your 70s or 80s; and at the time it was a mystery as to why at 39-years old her  
husband had this cancer. She stated that they later found out the kidney cancer was  
connected to the burn pits that her husband was exposed to in Iraq. She stated that her  
husband has since been diagnosed with prostate cancer, noting that both of the  
cancers were service-connected, and that he was still in the fight against those  
cancers and the other health conditions.  
Ms. DiPalma-Herb stated like every Veteran in this Chamber, that they cannot sue  
their employer for exposing them to conditions that would cause cancer and many  
other conditions. She stated her husband was not part of any class action lawsuits; he  
does receive benefits through the VA, and they were grateful for that. However, she  
stated her husband had a long list of permanent health conditions that impact his  
quality of life, and unfortunately will likely reduce his life expectancy. She asked that  
the Finance Committee to please not diminish her husband’s sacrifice; and that they  
respect it enough to consider their deliberations carefully.  
Ms. Adrienne Parad, 5 Birtch Street, Ledyard, stated that she was a Navy Veteran,  
and she has a 90% Disability Rating. She stated that some of her disabilities you can  
see and some of her disabilities they cannot see, however, she stated that they have  
impaired her ability to work. She stated as the Town went through the budget cycle  
last time, she was attacked by many people for having an income. She stated that she  
wanted everybody to try their best to find common ground so that they could move  
forward. She stated that they had to find a way to support all of their Veterans, but  
not put it on the backs of all of the people who are struggling on the Asset Limited  
Income Constrained Employed (ALICE) Report who were living paycheck to  
paycheck. She stated that there has to be a way where they could get through all of  
this together. She stated that she also felt like everyone in this crowd that wanted for  
them to move forward, and find a way to take care of their Veterans, but not punish  
the rest of our community, too. She stated that she did not know if there was a place  
in this for people who have a 90% Disability Ratings, but that she was glad that the  
100% Disabled Veterans were being taken care of.  
Mr. Lloyd Miller, 13, Queen Eleanor Drive, Gales Ferry, stated that he understood  
that it was a tough task for the Town to come up with a budget. However, he stated if  
towns throughout the State spent more time trying to figure out how support House  
Bill #5407 which would reimburse Municipalities for tax exemptions provided in  
Public Act #24-45 they may be able to accomplish something. He commended their  
Tax Assessor for actually sending a letter to the State to support House Bill #5407;  
and he stated that he would appreciate the members of the Town Council to also send  
letters of support. He stated that this issue would not be a subject on the Agenda if  
the State Legislation would pass the Bill.  
Mr. Brandon Sabbag, 16 Nutmeg Drive, Gales Ferry, attending remotely via Zoom,  
stated that he was not a Veteran, but that he wanted to thank every Veteran in the  
Chamber this evening for their service to our country, and thank them for choosing  
our town to live in.  
Mr. Sabbag continued by noting that Mayor Allyn, III submitted his proposed Fiscal  
Year 2026/2027 Budget this week. He stated as proposed, including the Board of  
Education’s proposed Fiscal Year 2026/2027 Budget that they would see a 26.67 mil  
rate, which was better than the 37.14 mil rate they currently have. He stated even with  
the Adjusted Mil Rate based on the 2026 Revaluation, that taxes may sill go up.  
Mr. Sabbag went on to address the draft “An Ordinance to Provide a For a Cap on  
the Real Property Tax Exemption For Veterans With a Service-Connected Permanent  
And Total Disability Rating”; noting that he stood in support of the others that spoke  
this evening. He stated that it was challenging for the town to provide the full tax  
exemption to the Veterans in the room. He stated there were a lot of people in the  
room this evening that were looking for Public Act #24-45 to be enacted as proposed  
in Hartford. However, he stated the town does have the ability to limit the tax  
exemption within the confines of the law.  
Mr. Sabbag addressed the current year’s (fy 25/26) budget process, noting that many  
may remember that last year; after the town voted down the budget twice, that this  
Finance Committee pushed the budget through anyway. He stated in $73,810,669 that  
he believed there was room for them to find half a million to a million dollars to  
provide 100% tax exemptions to their Permanently Disabled Veterans, noting that  
this was an opportunity to maybe make that right.  
Mr. Sabbag concluded his comments by stating as some have mentioned this evening  
a Public Hearing was held in Hartford yesterday on House Bill #5407; which would  
make Municipalities whole. Therefore, he suggested that maybe they should wait  
before considering any modifications to the program provided in Public Act #24-45.  
Mr. Darrell Heide, 19 Oaks Hill Trail, Ledyard, attending remotely via Zoom, stated  
he was a 29-year Veteran, serving on two fast-tack submarines, two aircraft carriers  
with multiple deployments. He stated that he has a 100% Disability Rating, noting  
that not all of his disabilities can be seen; as his some of his other Shipmates  
mentioned this evening. He stated that he appreciated every single person's service  
that was in the Chambers this evening. He stated they have come together to talk  
about limiting a benefit for Service Members, who when they leave their military  
service, do not receive the same level of benefit that maybe a congressman does, or  
somebody else. He stated that a lot of them put their lives on the line, and they have  
endured toxic atmospheres, brain injuries, and cannot sleep through the night because  
of whatever they had to deal with. He stated that it made him sad that they had to  
even had to get together to talk about fighting for a benefit that was already passed  
for the to be able to enjoy and experience the fruits of their hard labor.  
Mr. Heidi went on to comment that budgets can go up, and they can go down, they  
could spend more, or they could spend less. He encourage the Town Council, the  
Mayor's Office, and everybody that would be looking at the budget, that instead of  
trying to take benefits from people that have earned them with blood, sweat, and  
tears; to try to find ways to spend their dollars more smartly. He stated that he  
appreciated that their voice was being heard, but that he did not find out about  
tonight’  
IV.  
V.  
PRESENTATIONS / INFORMATIONAL ITEMS  
None.  
APPROVAL OF MINUTES  
MOTION to approve the Finance Committee Minutes as follows:  
·
·
Regular Meeting Minutes of February 4, 2026  
Special Joint Town Council Board of Education Meeting Minutes of February 4, 2026  
Moved by Councilor Garcia-Irizarry, second by Ryan  
VOTE:  
3- 0 Approved and so declared  
APPROVED AND SO DECLARED  
Carmen Garcia-Irizarry  
Tim Ryan  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
Finance Director’s Report - Fiscal Year 2025-2026  
VI.  
Finance Director Matthew Bonin reported on the following: (1) Auditing Services - Mr.  
Bonin stated the Request for Proposals (RFP) #2026-003 for Auditing Services were due  
on March 6, 2026; (2) Fiscal Year 2026/2027 Budget was submitted to the Town  
Council on Monday, March 2, 2026; (3) State Grant Reimbursement- School Roof  
Projects and Juliet W. Long Heating Ventilation Air Condition (HVAC) Project - Mr.  
Bonin stated that the Town has been paying the invoices for the School Roof Projects.  
However, he stated that the State Grant Reimbursement has not been coming in. He  
stated that he has spoken with Board of Education Director of Facilities and Ground  
Wayne Donaldson about the need for the Town to receive the Grant Funding, noting that  
Mr. Donaldson said that he has submitted the invoices into the on-line State System and  
that their requests were “Pending”. Mr. Bonin stated that the Town was scheduled to  
Bond the School Roof and Juliet W. Long HVAC Projects in August, 2026 noting that  
they were waiting on a couple million dollars. He explained that the Borrowing Costs  
would be based on the dollar amount of the Bonds; explaining that the State Grant  
Reimbursement would not cover the Borrowing Costs, noting the importance to receive  
the State Grant Funding before the next round of Bonds. He stated although the Invoices  
are paid by the town side that the Grant Reimbursement was handled on the Board of  
Education side.  
Councilor Buhle questioned whether Board of Education Director of Finance Ken  
Knight was involved in the process to submit the paperwork to the State for the Grant  
Reimbursement. Mr. Bonin stated that Mr. Knight was not involved in the process,  
noting that the two Board of Education individuals that were involved with the State  
were Director of Facilities and Ground Wayne Donaldson and School Superintendent  
Jason Hartling. Mr. Bonin stated that there needed to be more communication with the  
State of Connecticut to let them know that Ledyard needed to receive their Grant  
Reimbursement.  
Councilor Ryan asked whether Mayor Allyn had talked with School Superintendent  
Jason Hartling. Mayor Allyn, III stated that he has reached out to Mr. Harting to press  
this issue; but that its gone nowhere; noting that the he tried to reach him again today,  
but he was out of the office. He noted that this also happened during the last  
borrowing cycle, explaining that the Town had to borrow money for money that they  
were waiting on from the State, and had to incur additional the short-term borrowing  
costs. He stated that this was once again a concern, because the short-term borrowing  
costs were non-reimbursable. He stated that it was too bad the State’s on-line Grant  
System was like this, and that the Town has to deal with the projects as a whole; but  
the Board of Education had to deal with Department of Administrative Services  
portal, noting that there was a disconnect there.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry questioned whether anyone had contacted Board of  
Education Chairman Jennifer Reguin to make her aware of this situation. She stated  
that perhaps the Board of Education could deal with the Grant Reimbursement for the  
Schools Roof Projects and the Juliet W. Long HVAC Project at their next meeting.  
Councilor Ryan stated that it was frustrating to hear the lack of urgency on the part of  
the Board of Education to obtain the State Grant Reimbursement, when the Town had  
to bear the expense for the Schools Roof Projects and the Juliet W. Long HVAC  
Project on the General Government side.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
Financial Reports - Fiscal Year 2025-2026  
VII.  
Finance Director Matthew Bonin noted the following Reports were attached to the Agenda on  
the meeting portal:  
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Budget versus Actual Revenue Report through January 31, 2026:  
ü Tax Collections were at 96% and were on-target.  
Budget versus Actual Expenditures Reports through January 31, 2026  
ü Legal Fees were going to be over expended  
ü Winter Operations were going to be over expended.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
VI.  
OLD BUSINESS  
Discussion regarding potential uses for the funding received from the National Opioid  
Settlement Payments.  
1.  
Mayor Allyn, III stated that the Police Department would be requesting funding for  
the Drug Abuse Resistance Education (DARE) Program.  
Mayor Allyn also noted that he did not have any new National Opioid Settlement  
revenues to report on this evening.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
Discussion scheduling Regular Quarterly Joint Finance Committee Meetings between the  
Town Council and Board of Education.  
2.  
Councilor Buhle stated that she did not have an update in terms of availability for the  
next Joint Meeting between the Town Council Finance Committee and the Board of  
Education Finance Committee. She stated the Committee would talk more about this  
at their March 18, 2026 meeting.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
Continued discussion regarding upcoming potential Grant Opportunities.  
3.  
Councilor Buhle noted the 2027 Federal Congressionally Directed Spending (CDS)  
Grant Applications would open in April. She plans to attend the March 9, 2026  
webinar to learn about the appropriations process, the various funding opportunities,  
and eligibility requirements. She stated it would be great if they had some projects  
that were ready and would fit the parameters of the Federal Congressionally Directed  
Spending Grant program.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
4.  
Any Old Business proper to come before the Committee.  
None.  
VII. NEW BUSINESS  
MOTION to appropriate $229,000 to account 21020103-57300-G0017 Dispatch - New  
1.  
Equipment and authorize the expenditure of up to $229,000 based on federal grant funding  
awarded for “Police Dispatch System Replacement”  
This funding was received through the 2026 Congressionally Directed Spending initiative, to  
replace the Ledyard Dispatch Emergency Communications CAD/RMS System.  
Moved by Councilor Garcia-Irizarry, seconded by Councilor Ryan  
Discussion: Police Chief John Rich stated before he begins to address the replace the  
Ledyard Dispatch Emergency Communications CAD/RMS System that he wanted to  
take a moment to thank all the Veterans for their service, and all of their citizens for  
the support that they show to Ledyard’s Police Officers on a daily basis. He stated  
that they greatly appreciate and thank them.  
Chief Rich continued by stating that he was present this evening to follow-up on the  
replacement of the Ledyard Dispatch Emergency Communications Computer Aided  
Dispatch and Records Management (CAD/RMS) System that would be purchased  
with funding received through the 2026 Congressionally Directed Spending Grant,  
noting that this initiative was started two-years ago.  
Chief Rich thanked the Town Council; and Councilor Buhle, and Congressman  
Courtney’s Office for their support in applying for the Federally Funded Grant  
Application COPS Law Enforcement Technology and Equipment Grant; stating that  
this week they received the news that the Federal Funding has come through. He and  
he provided two quotes to purchase the equipment; noting that one of the quotes was  
the company that had a contract with the State of Connecticut and that they were one  
of the dominant players in this type of records management system for  
community-oriented police services. He stated that they had robust connectivity with  
the courts, so they would be connected with the COPS Office within the Department  
of Justice which would make systems much easier of for the Police Department. He  
explained that this Grant Program required the Town to provide the funding upfront  
and after they submitted their invoices and associated paperwork the Town would  
receive the approved Grant Reimbursement from the Federal Government.  
Chief Rich continued by stating that Ledyard’s current system was twenty years old  
and was now antiquated with all of the new technology updates that have occurred  
during that time. He explained that this equipment would modernize and increase the  
functionality of their software that allowed them to maintain the records for the  
Police Department, Dispatch, and their Police Officers. He stated the upgraded  
software would include enhanced mapping capabilities, and would give them the  
ability to go back into historical data for investigative purposes. He went on to  
explain that the software also interfaced with the judicial system for the online  
submission of forms and electronic signatures, etc. He stated that it would allow them  
to implement E-Citations and Warnings”, for traffic enforcement, explaining that if  
a Police Officer had a car with a printer, they would no longer need to have ticket  
books and pens, etc., noting that it would increase efficiency, as well as modernize  
and further professionalize their Police Department.  
Chief Rich stated that upgrading this system would pay great dividends for public  
safety in the town. He stated that it included some public-facing features such as  
self-reporting that would allow families to volunteer information about someone in  
their household that had a cognitive issue, or a behavioral health issue, or a child on  
the spectrum, noting that it runs the gamut. He stated that these records in their  
systems were kept private. However, he stated the information was helpful to their  
Police Officers as well as their Fire and our Emergency Medical Specialists (EMS)  
contractor in responding to a these households. He went on to explain in cases of  
people who were cognitively impaired, that they would have information regarding  
their vehicles, their medications, etc., a photo of them. He stated this information  
would be available at their fingertips, as opposed to trying to gather it in the moment,  
if there was an emergency. He stated although they have this information with the  
current system; that with the new system the Police Department would not have to try  
solicit this type of information from the public.  
Chief Rich stated the maintenance costs for the new Dispatch Emergency  
Communications CAD/RMS System were less than what they were paying for their  
current system; and that they were going to have some efficiency, better benefits,  
with the safety features for their first responders; and therefore, their community.  
Councilor Buhle stated for those who do not know, the new Dispatch Emergency  
Communications CAD/RMS System would have been funded through tax levy over  
the course of three budget years. However, she stated the Town pursued a  
Congressionally Directed Spending Grant and now there was no tax levy needed to  
upgrade this needed Records System.  
Councilor Buhle went on to note that the Congressionally Directed Spending Grant  
Funding would also pay to replace the entire server; and she questioned whether  
Chief Rich had the quotes for that portion of the project. Chief Rich stated that MIS  
Director Justin Dube was getting the quotes to replace the Police Department’s  
Server, noting that as of this morning Mr. Dube had not received the quotes. He went  
on to note that last week they met with Congressman Courtney’s Office and his point  
of contact.  
Councilor Buhle stated that the total cost of the new Dispatch Emergency  
Communications CAD/RMS System was about $215,000; and therefore, she  
questioned whether the remaining $15,000 Grant Funding would be enough to pay  
for the new Police Department Server. Chief Rich stated that they budget for  
maintenance each year. Therefore, he stated they would have a total of about $40,000  
to make sure that they had all the hardware that was needed in the building to actually  
support the Dispatch Emergency Communications CAD/RMS System; and  
potentially the connectivity to the vehicles, noting that they may need some  
additional accessories.  
Councilor Ryan questioned the scope of the additional accessories the Police  
Department might need. Chief Rich stated that they would need modems, cellular  
modems and connectivity to the vehicles to make sure that the Police Offices have all  
the features inside the vehicles.  
Councilor Buhle questioned if the up-front $229,000 would be paid from the  
Undesignated Account; and then be reimbursed when the Grant Funding was  
received. Finance Director Matthew Bonin state that the up-front $229,000 to  
purchase the Dispatch Emergency Communications CAD/RMS System would be  
paid out of the Capital Account. Mayor Allyn, III stated he spoke to Ms. Julia  
McGrath, the grant specialist from Congressman Courtney's Office, and that she  
assured him that the reimbursement process was relatively quick. Mr. Bonin stated  
that the Federal Grant Reimbursements have been a lot quicker; than the Grant  
Reimbursements have been from the State.  
Councilor Ryan provided a recap stating the  
new Dispatch Emergency  
Communications CAD/RMS System and Server would cost no money from town,  
noting that they would end up saving money in the recurring maintenance costs, and  
have better efficiencies and more capability.  
VOTE: 3- 0 Approved and so declared  
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL  
Carmen Garcia-Irizarry  
Tim Ryan  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
3
Buhle, Garcia-Irizarry and Ryan  
AYE:  
MOTION to approve a bid waiver to Daniels Equipment Co, Inc of Auburn NH for the  
purchase of commercial laundry equipment and services.  
2.  
Moved by Councilor Ryan, seconded by Councilor Garcia-Irizarry  
Discussion: Ledyard Center Fire Chief Jon Mann, attending remotely, via Zoom,  
explained that sometime ago the Fire Department purchased a commercial washing  
machine to launder their Turn-Out Gear. He noted that the Fire Department included  
funding in their Fiscal Year 2025/2026 Budget to purchase commercial dryer for their  
Turn-Out-Geer. He stated because Daniels Equipment was the area representative for  
Continental Laundry Solutions; and to keep things simple that the Fire Department  
has requested a Bid Waiver to use the same vendor; which would enable them to save  
money on service calls.  
Chief Mann went on to explain that there were very few cabinet-style turnout gear  
dryers on the market noting in addition to turn-out-gear that this style of dryer could  
also be used to dry fire hose, cold water rescue suits, ropes, and other equipment. He  
stated that they could not use a conventional dryer because the high heat would  
degrade and shorten the lifespan of the gear.  
Councilor Ryan noted in accordance with Ordinance #200-001 (rev 2) “Purchasing  
Ordinance” that for items over $7,500 three quotes were required and for items over  
$15,000 that they were required to solicit three competitive bids.  
Councilor Buhle questioned whether the Ledyard Center Fire Department obtained  
other quotes. Finance Director Matthew Bonin noted that multiple quotes were  
attached to the Agenda on the meeting portal. Councilor Ryan stated the comparable  
units he found in his search cost between $,5000 - $10,000. He stated that he would  
echo Councilor Barnes’ concerns stating that he was not a fan of Bid Waivers. He  
stated if there was a reason for them to exercise a Bid Waiver, that it should be  
included on the Standing Bid Waiver List, which the Town Council approved each  
year. He noted in the backup information that the notes indicated that going forward  
the Fire Department intended to include this vendor on the Standing Bid Waiver List.  
Chief Mann responded, to Councilor Ryan’s comment stating unfortunately he did  
not think about including this vendor on the Standing Bid Waiver List when it was  
sent out. However, he stated that their intention was to include them going forward.  
Councilor Ryan stated that he agreed that by having the same vendor for the  
Turn-Out-Geer that it would eventually pay dividends with the maintenance of the  
equipment.  
VOTE: 3- 0 Approved and so declared  
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL  
Tim Ryan  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Carmen Garcia-Irizarry  
SECONDER:  
3
Buhle, Garcia-Irizarry and Ryan  
AYE:  
MOTION to authorize overspending Account #10110205-53615 (Town Attorney) through  
June 30, 2026.  
3.  
Moved by Councilor Buhle, seconded by Councilor Ryan  
Discussion: Mayor Allyn, III stated that he briefly reported on the Attorney/Legal  
Fees Account, noting that $20,000 was annually included in the Mayor’s Office  
Department Budget for these costs. However, he stated with billing only through  
October 31, 2025 that the budget line currently had $473.00 remaining. He stated  
this year they had two substantial expenses which included the multiple versions of  
the proposed draft Ethics Ordinance, and the Lead Hazard Abatement at the Nathan  
Lester House. He stated both of this issues consumed an abnormal about of money  
given the circumstances.  
Councilor Ryan stated that he would like to see the break out of the legal fees to date,  
and the proportion that was spent on the proposed draft Ethics Ordinance and the  
Nathan Lester House Lead Abatement matter.  
Councilor Ryan stated that it was not unorthodox to authorize over spending the  
Town Attorney budget line, noting that they have approved this in past years. He  
stated the reason was because it was more strategic to do so. He explained when they  
initiate the budget at the beginning of the fiscal year; that it was more about not  
tipping their hand to potential litigation that might be brought against the town; in  
terms of how much they were going to spend to defend themselves. He stated  
unfortunately, they have had to authorize over spending the Town Attorney in past  
years, which was mostly for land use issues.  
Councilor Buhle stated authorizing overspending the Town Attorney budget line was  
not optional, noting that they had to pay the Attorney, when they needed an Attorney.  
VOTE: 3- 0 Approved and so declared  
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL  
Jessica Buhle  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Tim Ryan  
SECONDER:  
3
Buhle, Garcia-Irizarry and Ryan  
AYE:  
Discussion regarding Public Act 24-46 “An Act Establishing a Property Tax Exemption for  
4.  
Veterans Who Have a Service-Connected Permanent and Total Disability Rating” relative to  
modifications to the Program.  
Councilor Buhle stated as she mentioned at the beginning of tonight’s meeting that  
she did not specifically ask Administrative Assistant Roxanne Maher to draft an  
Ordinance to provide a cap on Public Act 24-46 “An Act Establishing a Property Tax  
Exemption for Veterans Who Have a Service-Connected Permanent and Total Disability  
Rating. She noted that Ms. Maher was very helpful and proactive in drafting things  
for them when they specify that they were interested in something; noting that the  
Finance Committee discussed a cap for the program at their January 21, 2026  
meeting. She stated that she was glad and grateful to see all of their Veterans at  
tonight’s meeting to be a part of this discussion.  
Councilor Buhle went on to state that her Husband was an active duty service  
member, noting that some present this evening have served with her husband and  
may have relieved her husband at his last command. She stated as many mentioned  
this evening that Ledyard was a town of 1,200 Veterans, noting that she was grateful  
for all their service members, and for the service of all their veterans.  
Councilor Buhle continued by explaining when the State Legislation passed Public  
Act #24-46 “An Act Establishing a Property Tax Exemption for Veterans Who Have a  
Service-Connected Permanent and Total Disability Rating” without the State providing  
any reimbursement to the Municipalities; that Ledyard saw a reduction in collectable  
taxes of about $700,000. She stated to be clear that she supports Public Act #24-46 it.  
However, she stated if the State said to Municipalities that this was the Plan and here  
is the money to cover Plan that would have been great. But the State of Connecticut  
did not say “Here’s the money to cover it”  
Councilor Buhle went on to state this was the hardest part, explaining when they  
grant a tax exemption to anyone in town, whether it was a senior citizens, whether it  
was a veteran, or whether it was anyone, that the tax bills do not go away. She stated  
the loss of those tax revenues were absorbed by the other taxpayers. So that bill still  
exists, and so what happens was when they took a tax exemption affected $700,000  
worth of revenue for 108 people, that they were passing that expenses on to 1,100  
other veterans in our town, along with the other people in their town who were not  
veterans, and people that struggling to put food on the table, and people that were  
struggling to pay their mortgages; by having to set a higher mil rate; as they hear  
during every single budget cycle.  
Councilor Buhle stated that she wanted to explain the median tax idea that they were  
discussing; because she has heard some comments that seemed to indicate that the  
median tax was not fully understood. She explained that the Median House Value in  
Ledyard was $251,000; if the home’s assessed value was $251,000 or below, they  
would receive the full 100% tax exemption. If the home’s assessed value was over  
$251,000 they would be subject to taxes on the amount that was over the $251,000,  
meaning if a home was assessed at $300,000 they would be taxes on delta of $49,000.  
She reviewed the following information from the Tax Assessor:  
ESTIMATED MILL RATE = 26.05 (all tax estimates are rounded)  
Median Cap Assessed Value of $251,000  
Assessed Value Taxes  
$33,011,298  
$ 6,395,338  
No Exemptions  
With PA #24-45  
$860,000  
$166,000  
PA #24-45 + 2 Acres  
PA #24-45 / Median Cap  
PA #24-45+ 2 Acres/Median Cap $ 7,209,724  
$
35,000  
$ 90,000  
$242,900  
$187,800  
$ 9,323,098  
108 APPROVED APPLICANTS  
55 applicants would fall under the median cap of $250,100 - Would receive the full  
100% tax exemption for the house = $0 taxes; but would pay taxes on the land.  
29 applicants would fall under the median cap if additional 2 acres land was adopted  
11 applicants would have a small assessment due to excess land if additional 2 acres  
of land was adopted. (had more than 2 acres of land)  
Councilor Buhle stated the reason she requested this information was because she  
wanted to come in with all of the numbers, so that they had an idea about what they  
were talking about. She stated $80,000 in tax revenue equated to about 0.05 mils;  
noting that one mil for the coming year (fy 26/27) was valued at $1.8 million.  
Councilor Buhle addressed the annual budget process; noting that she ardently  
supported the Fiscal Year 2025/2026 Budget that the Town Council approved during  
last year’s budget process. She went on to state that she would 100% support the  
budget for the coming Fiscal Year 2026/2027; noting that it would be based on their  
needs and also forward thinking of what their town needed to maintain the level of  
services that they deserve for a town that they all live in and love. She noted the  
Mayor’s proposed Fiscal  
Year 2026/2027 Budget that was submitted to the Town Council on Monday, March  
2, 2026 required Mil Rate was 26.67; without any changes to the tax exemption  
program provided in Public Act #24-45. She stated although she has not reviewed  
every line in the budget yet, that she would vote “Yes” for a 26.67 Mil Rate that  
supported everything that they needed. However, she stated that there were residents  
in their town that were going to Vote “No” because they cannot afford a 26.67 Mil  
Rate with the new assessments; and she understood that. She stated as she has been  
saying for years, Ledyard does not have a spending problem, they have a revenue  
problem, noting that this came up as a conversation of “How do they try to balance  
how this affects our residents?”. She stated that the Finance Committee would begin  
their Budget Work Sessions tomorrow at 2:00 p.m.; and she welcomed everyone to  
attend, noting that the Finance Committee would meet with each Department to  
review their proposed budgets and that they may make changes to the Mayor’s  
proposed budget.  
Councilor Buhle went back to the idea of capping the Disabled Veteran Tax  
Exemption Program provided in Public Act #24-45 stating that part of using the  
median house value was not to affect every single person. She noted that it was to say  
that there were residents in their town who were living in homes the median size who  
were bearing the burden of tax exemptions that are passed on to every other taxpayer  
in town. She stated that personally she would bear that burden every time in her tax  
bill, noting that was a choice that she could make. However, she stated there were  
residents in their town that could not afford to make that choice, and that she had to  
be cognizant of them as well. She stated that she hoped to that she was able help  
explain some of what that looks like, and to provide some perspective.  
Councilor Buhle stated if the State Legislature approved the newly proposed Raised  
House Bill # 5407; and the State makes Municipalities whole that would be great.  
A Resident questioned how they would know the assessed value of their home  
without the land. Councilor Ryan stated that Vision Appraisal has separated the  
assessed value of the house and the land.  
Mr. Ryan Landry, Veterans Representative for Ledyard, stated that based on  
tonight’s discussion, it does not sound as though the Finance Committee was going to  
adopt the provision in Public Act #24-45 to include 2 acres of land with the tax  
exemption. Councilor Ryan stated that tonight was just a discussion.  
Councilor Ryan stated that he did not support the Fiscal Year 2025/2026 Budget,  
because he knew the things such as 2026 Property Revaluation, and the tax  
exemptions that were piling up were diluting their revenue, and that they were going  
to have to make concessions somewhere. He stated because the majority of Town  
Council did not have his same concerns; they find themselves here today. He stated  
they have a shortage of revenue; noting that he would agree with Councilor Buhle,  
noting that they do have a spending problem in some areas that he thought that  
should address. He stated overall, the budget was two components in its base  
comprised of Revenue and Expenditures. However, he stated they need to build their  
revenue, period. He stated that that they should do everything they possibly could to  
build their revenue; noting that this would not obviate them from looking at our  
expenditures. He stated with that said, because of what they knew was going to hit  
this year, and that includes losing revenue from the tax  
exemption program provided by Public Act #24-45; the impending loss of revenue  
from the Mashantucket Pequot Fund, that they were going to have a lot of loss of  
revenue they were going to need to make-up up somehow, whether it was through  
revenue or expenditure cuts. He stated that those were their two options.  
Councilor Ryan went on to state that a lot of surrounding towns were considering  
similar ordinances. He stated that does not make it right; and it does not mean that  
was what Ledyard was going to do; which was the reason they were having a  
discussion right now. He stated that Public Act #24-45 was a complete and total  
fumble by the State of Connecticut. He stated currently Ledyard had 108 Disabled  
Veterans Qualified Applicants. He explained when this Legislation was crafted; the  
State said that Ledyard had a total of nineteen Disabled Veterans; and that Statewide  
they were expecting 1,209 Applicants; which would have cost an estimated $4.9  
million in revenue across the entire state. He stated according to Connecticut  
Conference of Municipalities (CCM) Testimony the impact was now in excess of $20  
million. He went on to state that State Senator Cathy Osten actually rebutted what  
Ledyard’s Tax Assessor was saying in terms of how many 100% Permanently &  
Totally Disabled Residents that were eligible; as Public Act #24-45 was written  
(Town Council October 9, 2024 Minutes); even though Ledyard had the hard  
numbers. He stated that this was frustrating for him, beyond belief, that they have to  
figure out how to make up the loss in revenues.  
Councilor Ryan continued by noting as some people have noticed, Raised House Bill  
#5407 received a Public Hearing last night; noting that the House and Senate would  
be voting on the proposal; and that he hoped this Bill would be approved. He stated  
the Public Testimony was available on the Connecticut General Assemble (CGA)  
website, noting that the public could access this information by Googling House Bill  
5407CT, and the information would come up. He stated there was not one negative  
Testimony during the Public Hearing, noting that it was a Bipartisan Bill; and that he  
hoped that it would move through the House and Senate fast and be approved.  
Therefore, he stated that tonight’s discussion should stay as discussion until they see  
what happens with Raised Bill #5407.  
Councilor Ryan explained because the Town had a hard stop with their own Budget  
Process, they would have to decide what revenues they could account in their own  
budget. Therefore, he stated that the town does not have a lot of time, but that they do  
have some time; and so he would encourage his fellow Counselors to take all the time  
that we have to delay this discussion regarding modifications to Public Act#24-45 to  
see what happens with Raised Bill #5407; to see if it comes through for refunding  
municipalities.  
Councilor Ryan concluded his comments by stating that he appreciated everybody's  
time to come out tonight, and to make the comments they did. He stated that they  
appreciated their service. He noted that he worked for an employer down the river  
that many of you know; and that he takes take great pride in what he does there, and  
he takes his work very seriously in terms of what our service members do on front  
lines.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated in looking at the numbers that the difference between  
the taxes the town was currently collecting; and what they would collect with the  
median value cap was about $80,000. She stated whether the Raised House Bill  
#5407 was approved by the House and Senate or not, that she was not in favor of  
implementing the median value cap, because the difference in the amount was not big  
enough to justify having the Veterans to pay more; and she thought that they could  
find $80,000 somewhere in the budget. She stated that if they were to expand the tax  
exemption to include 2-acres that she would think more about the Disabled Veterans,  
based on unemployability. She stated instead of making the tax exemption for same  
people bigger, that she would like to try to include more people. However, she stated  
that they should wait to see if the House and Senate approve Raised House Bill  
#5407 before doing anything.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated that she appreciated everyone who attended  
tonight’s meeting and for their testimony, noting that she also read the comments on  
Social Meida. She stated before reading the comments on Social Media yesterday,  
that she was in-favor of the median value cap. She noted that her Grandfather was a  
veteran and that her Uncle died serving his country in the Vietnam War; and that she  
had friends that were in the military. She stated she did not have any other experience  
with those in military service, therefore, she appreciated all the comments because it  
helped her with the perspective and to understand what it was like to be in their  
shoes.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry addressed communications, and she noted that during last  
year’s ( fy 25/26) budget process that she tried to post communication about the  
budget, and she tried to spread the word as much as she could. She stated when the  
Budget Referendum Results were posted online, and people commented that they did  
not know about the budget. She stated that it was interesting that people missed all  
the posts, communications, and explanations about the budge during the process;  
however, they did not miss the posts regarding the Referendum Results. She stated  
now they have to think about Facebook and the algorithm; and unless Facebook  
showed something to you that they would not see it unless they actively go looking  
for it. She stated although they may be able to improve communications, that she  
knows that the town has already done a lot and that they each personally have done a  
lot, noting that she along with Councilor Buhle and Councilor Ryan have worked to  
get the information out there.  
Councilor Buhle stated that she wanted to ask her fellow Finance Committee  
members about the following modifications to Public Act #24-45:  
(1) “Allows any municipality by vote of its legislative body to modify, um, to exempt  
up to 2- acres of the lot the eligible dwelling sits on for reference”..  
Councilor Buhle stated that the modification noted above would reduce the  
collectible taxes from $166,500 to $900. She stated that this modification was not an  
option that was on the table at this time.  
(2) “To extend the exemption to unmarried surviving spouses of veterans, who would  
have otherwise qualified for the exemption but died between a date set of the  
legislative body and of October 1, 2024.”  
Councilor Buhle provided clarification regarding the Modification (2); explaining  
that unmarried spouses; meaning that their service member has passed away and they  
were still unmarried. She stated that once they remarry, they would become  
ineligible for remaining benefits. She noting that the Tax Assessor stated that off the  
top of her head that she could think of about three people that would qualify under  
this modification. She stated that Congress was currently discussing eliminating this  
benefit. She noted that Killingly adopted the median value cap and the surviving  
spouse modifications at the same time.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry addressed the provisions that Killingly adopted relative to  
tax exemptions for Disabled Veterans. She stated that although Killingly adopted the  
median value cap, that they also added for Veterans that have a 100% total disability  
due to unemployability; Gold Star Spouses, noting that Ledyard already had  
Ordinance #200-017 “ Ordinance Providing Tax Relief for Gold Star Families In the  
Town of Ledyard”.  
Mayor Allyn, III, stated the data set that the State of Connecticut used when they  
wrote Public Act #24-45 came from the Veterans Affairs, which was clearly not  
accurate, showed that both Ledyard and Gales Ferry combined with a total of  
nineteen people that would qualify for the 100% tax exemption as the Bill was  
written; for total tax loss in the amount of $95,000 for the Town of Ledyard. He  
stated as the Tax Assessor dug into the program, especially with being a neighbor of  
the New London-Groton Submarine Base, she disclosed her concerns to State Senator  
Cathy Osten; and they all made attempts to present the data that Ledyard was  
projecting; however, he noted that they were not listened to. Therefore, he stated the  
State was now trying to back into a solution with Raised House Bill #5704. He urged  
everyone in this Chamber to go to Hartford and speak on behalf of Raised Bill #5704.  
He stated that he has spoken to Ledyard’s Representatives, as well Groton-New  
London’s Representative Dan Dyneski and thanked them for supporting this  
Legislation (Raised Bill #5704). He commented when the State decided to push  
through Public Act #24-45 that they should have been prepared to pay the bill. He  
stated that he supported Raised Bill #5704 and that he hoped everyone here this  
evening would support the Bill because it would help everyone in this town,  
including the Veterans that receive the tax exemption benefit. He stated it was  
favorable coming out of Veterans Committee yesterday, noting that it still had a way  
to go for approval and that he believed that they could get a lot of power behind  
Raised Bill #5704 to get it through.  
Councilor Buhle requested clarification stating if a municipality were to enact  
different modifications to Public Act #240-5 that they would not be eligible for the  
100% Reimbursement from the State. Mayor Allyn stated that Councilor Buhle’s  
understanding was correct. She stated if Ledyard was to exempt up-to acres, that the  
town would not be reimbursed by the State for the 2-acres. Mayor Allyn stated  
Councilor Buhle was correct; and was a good reason to sit tight, because if Raise  
House Bill #5704 gets approved that the Town would need to annually submit a  
Report to the Office of Policy and Mangmetn (OPM) regarding the tax loss they had  
from Public Act #24-45. Therefore, he stated if the town modified the rules now that  
the State would say that they have already given half away, therefore, they were only  
going to reimburse the town for 50% .  
Mr. Ryan Landry, Veterans Representative for Ledyard, stated tonight they had a  
room full of decades and decades of leaders here, not just in this community, but in  
the military. He stated that this discussion should continue with the members their  
Veteran Community, because they were thinkers. He stated they were the ones that  
want to take care of everybody, not just those who were 100% Permanently and  
Totally Disabled. (PNT). Therefore, he stated that it was important that they were in  
the discussion, so they were taking care of all the veterans in their community, not  
just a single part, because they were a line item in a budget. He stated feeling like a  
number, and feeling they were being used in for a political gain was the worst feeling  
for a veteran. He stated they were leaders, and they control the climate in this  
community; and that they were Ledyard, and they were not any other town. He stated  
that they needed to come together to have a discussion on this issue to further it from  
today.  
Mr. Brian Osbourne stated that it would have been great to see the numbers that  
Councilor Buhle provided this evening, and he questioned the process going forward.  
Councilor Buhle apologized noting that they just received the numbers this afternoon,  
but that they would be part of the public record of tonight’s meeting. She went on to  
explain for those joining them in a meeting that the information was typically  
attached to the Agenda packet on the meeting portal.  
Mr. Harold Tower, 9 Kalmia Drive, Gales Ferry, stated he was 100% Permanently  
and Totally Disabled, and was eligible for 100% tax exemption. However, he was  
requesting clarification as to whether the tax exemption was only for his dwelling; or  
does it also include the property; noting that he could not have his house without  
owning the property. Councilor Buhle stated the way Legislation Public Act #24-54  
was originally written that the tax exemption was for the dwelling specifically, and  
did not including the land. She went on to explain that that if the dwelling was  
partially owned partially by the veteran and partially by somebody else, say it was a  
duplex; or something like that the tax exemption was the fractional share owned by  
the veteran. Councilor Garcia-Irizarry noted that one of the optional modifications  
that the State left for Municipalities was to include the land where the dwelling was  
sitting or up-to 2-acres.  
Bill questioned whether the data that the Tax Assessor provided gave a breakdown  
between how many were homeowners, and how many were vehicles. He stated that  
information would be good to know because it would skew the tax revenue numbers.  
Councilor Buhle stated that she would ask the Tax Assessor for that information.  
Councilor Buhle stated they had a good discussion this evening, noting that she had  
no intention of taking action; as they still had a lot to see from the State.  
Councilor Barnes stated that he wanted to provide one clarification, explaining that  
the original Legislation (Public Act #24-45) was the dwelling; which was the house,  
and any improvements to the house, such as an outbuilding or a patio; minus the land.  
He noted all these items were listed on their Property Card. He stated the other piece  
of Legislation they were talking about was in the Implementer Bill at the end of the  
last Legislative Session provided the following three options: (1) To provide the  
Municipality the opportunity or the option to Cap the tax exemption to the median  
value; which they talked about this evening; (2) To offer the up-to 2acres of land to  
be added; and (3) To provide the same option for that limited window of surviving  
spouses who would have not been covered. He stated that these mechanisms were  
provided by the State for relief to the towns in terms of Cap which was one of the  
options and the other two were that the State authorized municipalities to extend the  
benefit for both their surviving spouses and the two acres of land.  
Mr. Michael Ramirez, 76 Inchcliffe Drive, Gales Ferry, questioned how they did not  
have the right number of Veterans that were qualified for the tax exemption when  
they had to apply every year for the tax reduction. Councilor Buhle stated the reason  
the number of qualified Veterans were incorrect, was because when the State wrote  
the Legislation (Public Act #24-45) it was based on information that was provided by  
the Veterans Affairs (VA); which was not accurate with the number of Applications  
that were received in the Town. She stated that it was likely that there were still  
Applicants in the town that qualified for the program, but have not yet applied for the  
program. She stated the current number was 108 Veterans, and that there may be  
more as active duty service members retire.  
Mr. Roy Calaver, 30 Brewster Drive, noted that this evening he heard about what  
other towns have done relative to Public Act #24-45. However, he stated who cares  
about what the other towns were doing, and let’s do what was right for Ledyard and  
Gales Ferry. He stated if they say that they cared about their Veterans then they  
should not pass the modification to cap the program at the median value.  
Mr. Raymond Costa, 25 Eagle Ridge Drive, Gales Ferry, stated that they had a  
responsibility to their veterans and to take care of our veterans. He stated for some of  
their veterans, like those who served in Vietnam, Korea, and the World Wars, they  
did not have a choice because they were drafted, they had to go. He stated regardless  
of what happened that they had to take care of them because they made the ultimate  
sacrifice for us, and they did not have a choice. He went on to state now they do have  
a choice; and that this Chamber was full of people that volunteered to go protect our  
freedoms. Therefore, he stated that they owe it to those folks who volunteered to take  
care of them.  
5.  
Any New Business proper to come before the Committee  
None.  
IV  
ADJOURNMENT  
Councilor Ryan moved the meeting be adjourned, seconded by Councilor Garcia-Irizarry  
VOTE:  
3 - 0 Approved and so declared, the meeting was adjourned at 6: 59 p.m.  
Respectfully submitted,  
Jessica Buhle.  
Committee Chairman  
Finance  
Committee  
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