741 Colonel Ledyard Highway  
Ledyard, Connecticut 06339  
TOWN OF LEDYARD  
Finance Committee  
Meeting Minutes  
Chairman S. Naomi  
Rodriguez  
Regular Meeting  
Wednesday, April 17, 2024  
5:00 PM  
Town Hall Annex Building - Hybrid  
Format  
In-Person: Council Chambers, Town Hall Annex Building  
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I
CALL TO ORDER  
the Meeting was called to order by Committee Chairman Councilor Saccone at 5:00  
p.m. at the Council Chambers Town Hall Annex Building.  
Councilor Saccone welcomed all to the Hybrid Meeting. He stated for the Town  
Council Finance Committee and members of the Public who were participating via  
video conference that the remote meeting information was available on the Agenda  
that was posted on the Town’s Website - Granicus-Legistar Meeting Portal.  
II.  
ROLL CALL  
Tony Saccone  
Jessica Buhle  
Tim Ryan  
Present:  
In addition, the following were present:  
S. Naomi Rodriguez Town Council Chairman  
Carmen Garcia-IrizarryTown Councilor  
Fred Allyn, IIMI ayor  
Matthew Bonin Finance Director  
John RichPolice Chief  
Jacob Hurt Resident  
Roxanne Maher Administrative Assistant  
III.  
RESIDENTS & PROPERTY OWNERS COMMENTS  
Mr. Jacob Hurt, 6 Nugget Hill Drive, Gales Ferry, stated the reason he was  
interested in attending tonight’s Finance Committee was because this was the  
meeting following the Fiscal Year 2024/2025 Budget Public Hearing that was held on  
April 15, 2024, at which they would consider the public’s input regarding the  
proposed budget. He stated that first he wanted to say that he was disappointed with  
some of the decorum and outbursts that happened at Monday night’s Public Hearing.  
He stated while he appreciated the work that the Finance Committee did to prepare  
the budget that he felt that it got sidetracked by some of the behavior he saw there.  
He stated Robert Rules 21 & 61 give the Chairman the ability to enforce meeting  
decorum and call a member to order if they were not doing what they were supposed  
to do. He stated more importantly it gives them a chance to take a recess. He stated he  
was not here to debate whether or not the Chairman was too fast on the gavel; or  
whether what was said was improper. But that he also woke up this morning to  
various accusations of violation of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) because  
the video that came across looked like it got short and other sorts of stuff. He stated  
that he did not have a degree to debate that. He stated if they needed a minute that  
members could call for a recess. He stated rules were not meant to be a straitjacket,  
noting that they should be a guide. He stated the transparency that he was seeing from  
this group was vital, because he was not getting anywhere from the State or Federal  
level. So he was counting on here, and that he appreciated the thorough, diligent,  
bipartisan work that the Finance Committee and all eighteen Elected Offcials did to  
get this budget ready to go. He stated he was interested to see what comes out  
tonight. Thank you.  
Councilor Saccone thanked Mr. Hurt for his comments.  
IV.  
V.  
PRESENTATIONS / INFORMATIONAL ITEMS  
None.  
APPROVAL OF MINUTES  
MOTION to approve the Finance Committee Regular Meeting Minutes of April 4, 2024  
Moved by Councilor Buhle, seconded by Councilor Ryan  
VOTE:  
3 - 0 Approved and so declared  
APPROVED AND SO DECLARED  
RESULT:  
VI.  
FINANCE DIRECTOR'S REPORT  
Finance Director’s Report  
Finance Director Matthew Bonin reported on the following: (1) Fiscal Year  
2023/2024 Mil Rate Stabilization - Mr. Bonin noted when the current year’s budget  
was prepared it included the use of $1 million from the Mil Rate Stabilization Fund.  
However, he stated at this point in the fiscal year, that they may not need to use the  
full $1 million at year end; (2) Bond Anticipation Note Issuance School(s)  
Consolidation/Improvement Projects (Middle School & Gallup Hill School) - Mr.  
Bonin stated the Town’s $9.78 million Bond Anticipation Notes (BAN) would  
mature on May 1, 2024. He stated the Town was still waiting for the State to release  
the $8 million Progress Payment to them. He stated today the Town opened the Bids  
for the next round of BAN’s which were in the amount of $10 million to provide  
additional funding for the School Roof Projects. He stated all of the Purchasers  
offered a 4.5% Coupon, however, he stated the Town selected the Bid that offered a  
$13,000 Premium, which was money that would come back to the town and would be  
deposited into the Mil Rate Stabilization Fund, explaining the Premiums offered for  
Short-Term Issuances tend to be lower. He stated these Short-Term BAN’s would  
mature in August, 2024; noting that the Town has submitted/filed all the paperwork  
required to the State, and that they would be meeting with the State Department of  
Administrative Services (DAS) tomorrow.  
Mil Rate Stabilization Fund: Councilor Buhle noted that both the Fiscal Year  
2023/2024 and the 2024/2025 planned to use $1 million from the Mil Rate  
Stabilization Fund; therefore, she questioned the balance in the Fund. Mayor Allyn,  
III, explained that assuming the Fiscal Year 2024/2025 Budget uses $1 million from  
the Mil Rate Stabilization Fund that the balance would be $3.7 million. Councilor  
Buhle stated if the town does not use the budgeted $1 million Mil Rate Stabilization  
Funding either year or next year that the Fund balance would be $5.7 million. She  
questioned whether Finance Director Mattew Bonin had any idea of the amount that  
would be needed from the Mil Rate Stabilization Fund for the current year (fy 23/24).  
Mr. Bonin explained although the end of the year was June 30, 2024 that the budget  
would not be closed until sometime in August to allow time for all the invoices for  
expenses incurred thru June 30, 2024 were paid, noting that final numbers would not  
be available until October, 2024.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
VII. FINANCIAL REPORT  
Financial Reports  
Finance Director Matthew Bonin stated the following Financial Reports were  
attached to the Agenda on the meeting portal:  
· Revenue Year-to Date Report- March 31, 2024  
Mr. Bonin provided an overview of Revenues noting the following:  
ü Tax Collection Revenues were at 98.9% of budgeted.  
ü Impact Aid was projected to fall short by $250,000 from budgeted.  
ü Interest on Deposits has earned $759,000; which was $458,000 more than  
budgeted  
· Expenditure Year-to Date Report- March 31, 2024  
Mr. Bonin provided an overview of Expenditures noting the following:  
ü Specially Approved Counsel was currently over budget by $22,000.  
ü Defined Contribution Expense was trending to be over budget by $9,000 - Mr.  
Bonin explained in some of the new contracts the match rate was higher than the  
previous contract. He stated as new employees were being hired they were  
coming into the Defined Contribution Plan; noting that the town’s contribution  
would continue to increase.  
ü Police Salaries were over budget due to Contract Settlements.  
ü Public Works Budget - Although some lines within the Department were over  
budget that overall the budget was in good shape.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
VIII.. NEW BUSINESS  
MOTION to appropriate $12,872.00 to Account #21020101-57300 (Police New Equipment)  
and authorize the expenditure of up-to $12,872.00 to purchase equipment to support the  
High Risk Rural Road Speed Enforcement Program.  
Moved by Councilor Buhle, seconded by Councilor Ryan  
Discussion: Police Chief John Rich provided some background stating at their January  
24, 2024 meeting the Town Council authorized the Mayor to submit 2024 High Risk  
Rural Road Speed Enforcement Program Grant for the Police Department. He stated  
the Grant Program was aimed at reducing the amount of speed related fatalities and  
injuries on Connecticut's High Risk Rural Roads. He stated that the town was notified  
that Ledyard’s Grant Application was approved explaining that the High Risk Rural  
Road Speed Enforcement Funding was a 100% reimbursable Grant Program to  
support personnel costs for speed enforcement and to purchase equipment such as  
speed measuring devices. Therefore, he stated the Police Department was requesting  
the appropriation of funds to pay for speed measuring equipment as reflected in the  
two quotes provided as follows:  
· Stalker Radar Equipment $6,500 (two units)  
· Source Well Solar Radar Signs $6,372 (two signs)  
Councilor Buhle questioned how many solar speed signs the town would have, noting  
that she has seen some signs around town. Chief Rich explained that the State gave  
two speed signs to each Municipality. However, he stated they have had some  
maintenance issues with trying to keep one of the signs operating. He stated the  
Police Department periodically moves the speed signs around town when they were  
conducting traffic studies, or if they have received complaints about speeding,  
explaining that the equipment provided data such as traffic count, speeds, etc.,  
Councilor Saccone questioned whether the Police Department has seen motorist’s  
behavior, such as slowing down, with the use of the speed signs. Chief Rich stated  
that they have seen positive results with the use of the speed signs. Councilor Buhle  
stated she agreed motorists’ behavior does change with the speed signs. However, she  
stated they have noticed that after the speed signs were moved to a different location  
that the motorists behavior has reverted back.  
Councilor Buhle questioned whether $12,872.00 was the most they could receive  
from the 2024 High Risk Rural Road Speed Enforcement Program Grant. Chief Rich  
explained that the Program would allow Police Departments to submit for up-to  
$60,000 (personnel, shifts, overtime, etc.). However, he stated the program was  
designed to run from March 31, 2024 to May 31, 2024 explaining that $12,872.00  
was what Ledyard could reasonably support. He stated he attended a Progress  
Meeting with the State earlier this week, noting that they had a conversation about  
the State supporting Ledyard with additional Highway Safety Funding for State  
Highway Roads, such as Route 12, Route 214, Route 117, and other roads that were  
designated as High Risk Rual Roads. Councilor Buhle stated the reason she  
questioned whether they could receive more funding was to purchase additional  
speed signs noting that people do slow down when they see them.  
Councilor Ryan stated that he agreed with Councilor Buhle that drivers do slow down  
when the speed signs light up and flash the speed that they were traveling. However,  
he stated that he thought the signs had more of an impact on residential roads than on  
state highways.  
Councilor Ryan addressed the datasets the speed signs collected and stored; and he  
questioned whether the town would need to pay for a service to store the data. Chief  
Rich stated that currently the Police Department’s only experience with the speed  
signs and dataset was with the signs that they received from the State, explaining that  
the state managed the datasets and sent them reports. He stated because the town  
would be on their own with the speed signs they owned, that Ledyard has requested  
the State collect the datasets, noting that they would receive seven years of support.  
Councilor Ryan questioned the cost for the service after seven years. Chief Rich  
stated that he did not have that information.  
VOTE:  
3 - 0 Approved and so declared  
The Finance Committee thanked Chief Rich for attending tonight's meeting.  
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL  
Jessica Buhle  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Tim Ryan  
SECONDER:  
3
Saccone, Buhle and Ryan  
AYE:  
MOTION to authorize overspending Account #10110101-5310 (Legal Fee) thru June 30,  
2024. Funding to be transferred to Account #10110101-5310 (Legal Fee) at year end.  
Moved by Councilor Ryan, seconded by Councilor Buhle  
Discussion: Councilor Saccone explained that this Legal Fee Account resided in the  
Town Council Department Budget to pay for legal expenses for taxation and land issues  
pertaining to Indian Affairs.  
Mayor Allyn, III, stated that he anticipated having an Executive Session with the Town  
Council sometime in May, 2024 to discuss on-going matters regarding taxation and land  
issues, as Councilor Saccone mentioned.  
Councilor Ryan noted the background information listed the legal fees to date from  
Perkins Coie. He stated that the town would also be expecting some legal support from  
Attorney Lloyd Langhammer, and he questioned whether they knew what those costs  
might be. Mayor Allyn explained that Attorney Langhammer was the town’s tax  
attorney, noting that next year all of the legal fees would be budgeted separately. He  
stated that he would provide more information during the upcoming executive session.  
VOTE:  
3 - 0 Approved and so declared  
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL  
Tim Ryan  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Jessica Buhle  
SECONDER:  
3
Saccone, Buhle and Ryan  
AYE:  
MOTION to adopt a proposed Fiscal Year 2024/2025 Budget in the amount of $67,430,573  
comprised of:  
1.  
General Government: $29,060,750  
Board of Education: $38,369,823  
Moved by Councilor Buhle, seconded by Councilor Saccone  
Discussion: Councilor Ryan stated that this was the budget that was presented at the  
April 15, 2024 Public Hearing. He stated that they received comments both in-favor and  
against the proposed Fiscal Year Budget as presented. He stated at the Finance  
Committee’s Special Meeting that was held on March 25, 2024 he voted against the  
proposed budget in the total amount of $67,430,573; and that he planned to do the same  
tonight. He stated during that meeting he proposed an alternate budget number that  
would have still given the Board of Education a 6.3% increase over the current years  
budget (fy 23/24).  
Councilor Ryan stated based on some comparisons of surrounding Municipalities that  
have been made with regard to budget increases slowing in growth over the last few  
years, that he stated he conducted some additional research. He stated because people  
liked to compare Ledyard to Montville and Stonington he looked at their budgets. He  
stated the 6.3% increase in the Education Budget he was proposing was still significantly  
greater than the budget increases that were being proposed for the Montville (4.5%  
increase); and Stonington (4.9% increase). He went on to note over the last three budget  
cycles Ledyard’s Education Budget had an accumulative 15.5% increase which was a  
larger percentage increase than either of those two School Districts (Montville 12.7% &  
Stonington 14% ). Therefore, he stated he did not believe Ledyard was shorting their  
School District, but rather they were outperforming other School Districts in terms of  
budgets, in terms of increases year over year, especially in the accumulative sense. He  
stated the proposed $38,170,595 which was 6.3% increase included funding for  
additional services, such as Interventionists Coordinator and increase the Substitute  
Teachers Pay from $100 per day to $125 per day. He stated he called neighboring towns  
noting that the Substitute Teachers Pay ranged from $120 per day (Districts similar to  
Ledyard; $160 (New London); $170 per day (Norwich). Therefore, he stated that he  
believed the proposed Education Budget he proposed was fair.  
·
MOTION to amend the motion as follows:  
MOTION to increase the Board of Education’s proposed Fiscal Year 2024/2025  
Operating Budget by $315,750 $115,750 for a revised total of $38,369,823 $38,170,595  
for a increase of 6.3% over the current year’s budget (fy23/24) as proposed by the  
Board of Education.  
Moved by Councilor Ryan, seconded by Councilor Saccone  
Discussion: Councilor Buhle stated she would not support the proposed amendment for  
the following reasons:  
(1)The Town Council can only provide a dollar amount to reduce the Education  
Budget. The Town Council cannot tell the Board of Education where to reduce their  
budget. Therefore, the Board of Education may choose to cut things that the Town  
Council thought was sensible.  
(2)While they were seeing growth in the Education Budget; Ledyard’s Per Pupil  
Expenditure was still behind the State’s average; and they were not closing the gap.  
(3)The proposed Education Budget in the amount of $38,369,823 made sense.  
(1)The Superintendent’s proposed Fisal Year 2024/2025 Budget was funding the  
status quo. The $315,750 difference between Superintendents proposed Budget  
the and the Board of Education’s adopted Budget, which the Town Council  
voted on at their March 27, 2024 meeting, was what the Board of Education  
wanted to see beyond contractual increases.  
(2)Reducing the $315,750 by $200,000 would equate to 0.15 mils. Councilor Buhle  
stated for someone who lived in a house such as her home, it would be a  
difference of $31 per year or 2.60 per month.  
Councilor Saccone stated is vote to support the Board of Education’s proposed budget  
in the amount of $38,369,823 was based on his year and half experience working in  
the School System, noting the facilities needs, mental health support; educational  
needs, etc. He stated the higher budget number would support the status quo and help  
Ledyard’s School District catch up a little.  
Councilor Ryan stated he reviewed the Board of Education’s Fiscal Year 2024/2025  
Budget line by line and he talked with multiple people within the School District and  
in the Administration. He stated he had two school age children as well, and that the  
last thing he would want to do was hurt the student facing services. However, he  
stated that he saw that there was room within the Board of Education’s budget that  
would not hurt student facing services; and would in-fact increase the student facing  
services, as the Board of Education has requested.  
Councilor Ryan continued by stating he understood Councilor Buhle’s comment  
about the difference between a 6.85% increase versus a 6.3% increase in terms of a  
dollar perspective. However, he stated it was the optics, stating they need to ask  
themselves as a Town Council and as a Board of Education: (1) Whether they were  
doing the right thing for the taxpayers; (2) Were they doing the best they could; and  
(3) Was this the best they could do. He stated they should be challenging each other;  
stating that he understands the tough times people were going through, how  
expensive things have gotten, how inflation was affecting everything, not just  
municipal and education budgets, but the personal household budgets of our  
taxpayers. Therefore, he stated he believed that it was incumbent on him to look at  
whether they were being good stewards of the taxpayers money. He stated this was  
the type of work that he does every day where he worked, noting that they wanted to  
see that you were doing the very best you possibly could. He stated that he was sure  
that the Board of Education felt that way about the budget passed and that he could  
appreciate that.  
Councilor Ryan addressed the State’s Per Pupil Expenditure Average with regard to  
Ledyard working to close the gap, noting that he believed that Ledyard was closing  
the gap. He stated although it may not be as fast as some would like, that the numbers  
he presented earlier this evening demonstrated that Ledyard was outpacing other  
School Districts right now. He stated Ledyard may be behind in terms of the Per  
Pupil Expenditure, however, he would encourage residents to visit the Secretary of  
State’s website which provided the breakdown of how the Per Pupil Expenditures  
were aggregated; and where the costs actually go. He stated they could argue whether  
or not the Per Pupil Expenditures had a direct relation to the quality of the education.  
He stated spending more money does not necessarily provide a better education,  
noting the real indicators was the empirical evidence you see in the schools, such as  
how the money was spent, the caliber of teachers they were able to get in the  
classroom and whether the teachers were able attract and retain the students attention,  
noting that this was a student facing service. He stated that he believed Ledyard was  
doing that, rhetorically questioning whether the town could do more, commenting  
that the town could always do. He stated the point of his comments was to be a good  
steward of the taxpayers money and show that they were asking the tough questions  
and keeping an eye toward what the town really needed. He concluded by stating that  
he appreciated everyone’s viewpoint  
Councilor Buhle stated she also reviewed the Board of Education’s proposed Fiscal Year  
2024/2025 Budget line by line, noting that she wrote down about 200 questions and  
researched them. She stated that she watched the Board of Education review their budget  
spreadsheets to create their Wish List and then whittle it down little by little to arrive at  
their $38,369,823 budget; therefore, she stated that she felt that the Board of Education  
did the best they could. She stated the Board of Education was trying to be responsible  
but deliver what their students need. She expressed concern that if they reduced the  
Board of Education budget that some of the support programs they have been working to  
get in place would not be continued. She stated post Covid that there were a lot of  
children that needed special services, noting that it was a lot for a child to experience  
something like the Covid Pandemic for two-years during their formative years, stating  
the impact was not going to easily go away.  
Councilor Ryan stated that he agreed with Councilor Buhle’s concerns regarding the  
need to provide special support services, explaining when he reviewed the Board of  
Education’s budget that he wanted to make sure these services were kept in the budget.  
However, he stated as Councilor Buhle mentioned, unfortunately the Town Council  
would not get to say as to where the Board of Education should make reductions. He  
stated that he would hope that the Board of Education would make responsible choices  
to keep the student facing services and improvements, like the Interventionist  
Coordinator in-play, and reduce other things that were not student facing, should the  
Town Council reduce their budget. He stated the Town would have to leave it up to the  
Board of Education to do the right thing.  
Councilor Saccone stated past Town Councils, and past Mayors have been good  
stewards of the town’s money. He stated taking into consideration the taxes required to  
support the proposed Fiscal Year 2024/2025 Budget that he continued to support the  
Board of Education’s Budget in the amount of $38,369,823. He stated that he  
appreciated Councilor Ryan’s comments regarding asking the tough questions and the  
optics.  
Councilor Saccone called for a vote on the Amendment as follows:  
MOTION to increase the Board of Education’s proposed Fiscal Year 2024/2025  
Operating Budget by $315,750 $115,750 for a revised total of $38,369,823 $38,170,595  
for an increase of 6.3% over the current year’s budget (fy23/24) as proposed by the  
Board of Education.  
Moved by Councilor Ryan, seconded by Councilor Saccone  
VOTE:  
1 - 2 Motion Failed (Buhle, Saccone not in favor)  
Councilor Saccone called for a vote on the Main Motion as follows:  
MOTION to recommend the Town Council adopt a proposed Fiscal Year 2024/2025  
Budget in the amount of $67,430,573 comprised of:  
· General Government: $29,060,750  
· Board of Education: $38,369,823.  
Moved by Councilor Buhle, seconded by Councilor Saccone  
VOTE:  
2 - 1 Approved and so declared (Ryan not in Favor)  
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL  
Jessica Buhle  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Tim Ryan  
SECONDER:  
2
1
Saccone and Buhle  
Ryan  
AYE:  
NAY:  
Any other New Business proper to come before the Committee.  
None.  
2.  
IX.  
OLD BUSINESS  
Continued discussion regarding the status and possible changes to Capital Improvement Plan  
(CIP) and Capital Non-Recurring (CNR) Fund based on the American Rescue Act Funding  
(ARPA) and the process to approve ARPA Projects and expend ARPA Funding.  
1.  
The Finance Committee, Mayor Allyn, III, and Finance Director Matthew Bonin,  
discussed the status of the ARPA Projects relative to the allocation of surplus funds  
from completed projects and to consider and prioritize remaining needs.  
Mayor Allyn, stated currently there were only two or three ARPA Projects that have  
not yet been started. He continued by noting the following:  
· Sandy Hollow Guiderail Replacement/Installation: $330,000 - Mayor Allyn, III,  
stated the replacement/installation of the Sandy Hollow Guiderails that the Town  
Council approved to add to the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) projects list at  
their March 13, 2024 meeting should be completed within the next week.  
Councilor Saccone stated with the new Guiderails that the Fire Department may have  
to go under the guiderail to connect to the draft site on the east end of Route 117. He  
noted the old guiderail was laying on the ground in that location. However, he stated  
that he believed they would be okay because there were fire hydrants on Route 117  
and a draft site at the parking area.  
· LED Digital Message Sign Ledyard Center Location - Councilor Buhle stated  
during the Parks, Recreation & Senior Citizens Commission’s April 16, 2024  
meeting they questioned whether the planned location for the Message Sign in  
Ledyard Center was changed. Mayor Allyn stated the location of the Ledyard Center  
Digital Message Sign was not changed, noting that the location has always been  
planned for in-front of the Town Green. He explained the original location of the sign  
would have been in the State Department of Transportation’s (DOT) right-of-way,  
which was closer to the road (Route 117). However, he stated after a long battle that  
the DOT would not permit the Message Sign to be placed in their right-of-way.  
Therefore, he stated the Message Sign was moved back so that it would be in the  
curve of the stonewall, noting that the sign would be mounted on 7-8 foot posts. He  
stated the Town would be required to obtain approval from the DOT to trim the trees,  
noting that the trees were planted as part of the Ledyard Center Streetscape Project  
using Small Town Economic Assistance Program (STEAP) Grant Funding. However,  
he stated his contact at the DOT has assured him that the approval to trim the trees  
would only take a day.  
· Councilor Buhle stated she was pleased with the location, noting that some thought it  
was going to be at the crosswalk where the cones currently were. Mayor Allyn  
explained that the posts for the Ledyard History sign had rotted, so the sign was taken  
down and the cones were placed their so no one would fall in the post holes. He  
stated new posts would be installed and the Ledyard History sign would be put back  
in place.  
Councilor Ryan questioned whether the cost of the LED Digital Message Sign in  
Ledyard Center would be the same as the one that was recently installed on Route 12  
in-front of Gales Ferry Fire Department. Mayor Allyn stated that he believed ARPA  
Funding budgeted for the two signs should be adequate, noting that the two LED  
Digital Message Signs would be the same stating that the panel measured 48 X 36.  
He went on to state there would be a difference in how the two signs were mounted,  
explaining the sign on Route 12 was installed on the existing sign piers, noting that  
the State also owned a piece of land in front of the Gales Ferry Fire Department. He  
went on to explain for the Ledyard Center Message Sign they would be installing  
3,000 psi concrete piers to support the 7-8 foot posts and per the DOT they would  
need to use breakaway bolts so in high winds (110 mph) the sign would come down.  
He stated that they still had to install conduit and electric to the sign in Ledyard  
Center.  
Chairman Rodriguez addressed the tree in the area of the Ledyard Center Message  
Sign and she questioned whether the tree could be relocated. Mayor Allyn stated that  
they would have to look at the cost of digging the tree out and relocating it without  
damaging the tree. He stated that he could talk to DOT noting that the Town would  
need to obtain an Encroachment Permit to do work in a State Right-of-Way.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
Discussion regarding potential uses for the funding received from the National Opioid  
Settlement Payments.  
3.  
Mayor Allyn, III stated during the last three weeks Town received $39,000 from the Sackler  
Family Trust - Purdue Pharma, and others who were party to the case such as  
Johnson & Johnson, Teva, Allergan, Walgreens, CVS, and Walmart. He stated that  
he spoke to Southeastern Regional Action Counsel (SERAC) which was a non-profit  
organization located in Norwich, that works to engage with the communities of  
Eastern Connecticut to implement practices to reduce the impact of behavioral health  
challenges such as substance abuse, etc. He noted at their September 27, 2023  
meeting the Town Council appropriated $36,100 from the National Opioid  
Settlement Funds to Ledge Light Health District/ Ledyard Prevention Coalition to  
implement programs to address opioid use disorder and prevention, and to expand  
access to intervention, treatment, and recovery options. However, he stated he stated  
that there were other local Organizations such as SERAC that does similar work, noting that  
the Town Council could also consider other groups/organizations to be recipients of these  
funds, noting that the Town Council could provide funding to more than one organization.  
He stated that SERAC would be interested in speaking with the Town Council. Chairman  
Rodriguez stated the month of May was open for presentations at the Town Council  
Meeting. Mayor Allyn stated that he would contact SERAC to schedule a presentation. He  
noted a recent news article reported 98% of Connecticut towns that were receiving Opioid  
Settlement Funding has not used any of their funding to date. Administrative Assistant  
Roxanne Maher noted that the Community Relations Committee for Diversity, Equity and  
Inclusion had an item on their agenda latera this evening to research and vet non-profit  
organizations in an effort to provide recommendations for the Town Council to consider  
partnering with for the use of the Opioid Funding.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
Continued discussion regarding potential uses of the revenue received from Public Act  
No.21-58 “An Act Concerning Solid Waste Management” in accordance with “Resolution  
Regarding Revenues Received from Beverage Container Surcharges” (Nip Bottle Revenue)  
adopted on June 8, 2022.  
2.  
· Street Sweeper $269,000: Councilor Buhle noted at their April 3, 2024 Finance  
Committee meeting Public Works Director/Town Engineer Steve Masalin provided  
some information regarding the need to purchase a Street Sweeper and the potential  
to share the equipment with neighboring towns. She questioned whether Mr. Masalin  
had any updates regarding the interest of other towns to participate in a shared  
program. Mayor Allyn, III, stated that Mr. Masalin talked with the Town of Preston,  
however, he did not have any additional information to provide this evening. He  
noted that he would try to get more information from Mr. Masalin that would allow  
the Finance Committee to continue to discuss the Street Sweeper.  
Councilor Ryan questioned whether the rented Street Sweeper was still scheduled to  
arrive at the end of April. Mayor Allyn stated “Yes”. Councilor Ryan thanked Mayor  
Allyn, noting that the rental unit would tie the town over for this year.  
Councilor Buhle stated the Ledyard Beautification Committee would be doing their  
Trash for Treasure Fill a Dumpster” roadside clean-up on Sunday, April 21, 2024  
for Earth Day. She questioned whether there was a way to allocate some of the  
Beverage Container Surcharges (Nip Bottles) funding to the Beautification  
Committee to pay for expenses related to the event.  
Mayor Allyn stated Public Act No.21-58 “An Act Concerning Solid Waste  
Management” was specific in how the funding could be used noting the following:  
(1) Environmental measures intended to reduce the generation of solid waste;  
(2) Reduce the impact of litter caused by such solid waste, including, but not  
limited to, the hiring of a recycling coordinator;  
(3) The installation of storm drain filters designed to block solid waste and  
beverage container debris or  
(4) The purchase of a mechanical street sweeper, vacuum or broom that removes  
litter, including, but not limited to, such beverage containers and other debris  
from streets, sidewalks and abutting lawn and turf  
· Beautification Committee Events: Councilor Ryan, Beautification Committee  
Liaison, stated that he talked to Committee Chairman Jennifer Eastbourne about the  
use of the Nip Bottle Revenues to help support their Earth Day Roadside Clean-up  
Event. He stated that allocating some of these funds would help the Beautification  
Committee with their mission. He stated by allocating some funding to the  
Beautification Committee ahead of time they would not be caught flat footed for their  
events.  
· Solar Power Trash Compactors: Councilor Buhle stated that she was continuing her  
work to obtain updated quotes for the Solar Powered Trash Compactors with only  
the trash compactor feature. She also noted that Parks, Recreation & Senior Citizens  
Director Scott Johnson, Jr. was also working to obtain quotes for the concrete pads  
to place the units on.  
· Staff to Empty Trash at Farmers Markets - Councilor Ryan stated at the Finance  
Committee’s April 3, 2024 meeting Parks, Recreation & Senior Citizens Director  
Scott Johnson, Jr. discussed using some of the Nip Bottle Revenues to pay part-time  
staff to empty trash bins and clean-up during the Farmers Market. He stated based on  
$20.00 per hour the cost would be about $180.00 per week for the 14 weeks of the  
Farmers Market Season, noting that currently the Farmers’ Market was paying for  
trash dumpster/totes service. He noted that Mr. Johnson stated paying part-time  
summer staff to empty the trash cans could solve the problem of the trash cans  
overflowing, noting that between food trucks and Styrofoam containers the trash cans  
fill up quickly. Councilor Ryan stated the use of these funds would provide a job for  
a person in the community.  
Councilor Buhle stated it was her opinion that emptying trash cans did not fit the  
intent of Public Act No.21-58 “An Act Concerning Solid Waste Management”. She  
went on to state the reason she suggested the Solar Powered Trash Compactors was  
because other area towns used the Nip Bottle Revenues to purchase the Trash  
Compactors, noting that Ledyard would not be towing the line relative to a  
not-allowed use of the funds. However, she stated that they still had more work to do  
relative information and costs, etc. before they made a decision on how to use the Nip  
Bottle Revenues.  
Councilor Saccone stated he thought that using the Nip Bottle revenues to hire a  
part-time person to clean-up and empty trash cans at the Farmers Market was a good  
use of the funds because if the Town Green was not picked-up that with a little wind,  
the Farmers Market trash would end up at the front door of the Police Department or  
the Town Hall.  
· Food Waste Compost Program: Councilor Garcia-Irizarry questioned whether she  
should talk about the Food Waste Compost Program now or wait until the next item  
on the agenda (Item #4). Councilor Buhle stated that she thought the Nip Bottle  
Revenues could be used to pay for Food Waste Compost Program, because: (1) It  
would reduce solid waste; (2) Reduce the need to truck the solid waste out of state.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated that she hoped the Nip Bottle Revenue could be used  
to pay for the PILOT Food Waste Compost Program, because it would reduce the  
amount of waste going into the incinerator or being trucked to out of state landfills.  
She continued by stating that she emailed Blue Earth Mr. Sam King to obtain  
answers to the following questions that were raised at the Finance Committee’s April  
3, 2024 meeting: (1) Contract Term was for one-year; (2) Early termination the cost  
was a one month fee; (3) Low Participation PILOT would cost about $3,068 per year.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry suggested during the PILOT Test Program that the Town  
track the tonnage of the Food Waste and what the cost would have been if it was sent  
to the incinerator plant or landfills, versus the cost for the Compost Test Program; (4)  
Blue Earth would pick-up the Food Waste and transport it to Quantum Biopower  
located in Southington, Connecticut. She stated Quantum Biopower had Anerobic  
Digesters explaining that this company would compost the food waste and sell it.  
Councilor Ryan stated that Quantum Biopower would make money by selling the  
compost they produced from the towns Food Waste. Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated  
that Councilor Ryan was correct, however, she stated that the Tipping Fees were  
going to continue to increase, noting that the Town would need to either pay for the  
Food Scrap tonnage at the Incinerator Plant or pay to Truck it out of state. She stated  
realistically that the town most likely would not save any money the first year of the  
PILOT Food Waste Compost Program, however, she stated by diverting the Food  
Waste, which contained a lot of water and added to weight that they would save  
money long-term.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry concluded by asking the Finance Committee to consider  
using the Nip Bottle Revenue (Revenues Received from Beverage Container  
Surcharges) to implement a PILOT Food Wate Compost Program.  
She  
recommended the town start with the Low Participation Option estimated to cost  
$3,068 per year.  
Mayor Allyn stated one of the allowable uses per the Public Act No.21-58 “An Act  
Concerning Solid Waste Management” was to reduce solid waste, noting that the  
Food Waste Compost Program would reduce the amount of solid waste, therefore, it  
appeared to meet the requirements of the law. However, he stated for the PILOT Test  
Program they would need to determine the target audience. He stated some residents  
have purchased compost bin from SCRRRA through the Town Hall. However, he  
stated as previously mentioned there were some residents, who lived in apartments,  
condominiums, or higher density housing areas, that do not have the ability to have a  
compost bin in their backyard. Therefore, he stated the message would be key to  
getting residents to bring their Food Waste to the Compost Bins at the Transfer  
Station.  
Councilor Buhle suggested that neighborhoods could work together to have a  
community based plan to share the task of bringing the Food Waste to the Transfer  
Station. She noted as an example that one week she could bring the Food Waste to  
the Transfer Station, and the next week another neighbor would be responsible to  
bring the Food Waste to the Transfer Station. She agreed that there would be huge  
education component to make residents aware of PILOT Food Waste Compost Test  
Program and the importance of participating, relative to reducing their tonnage,  
reducing their cost to dispose of trash through the tipping fees, and for the  
environment. She stated that Ledyard was great at coming together to do great things.  
Mayor Allyn stated he agreed that the PILOT Food Waste Compost Program would  
be a precursor to the State’s Legislation that would require all Municipalities to  
separate their Food Waste by 2028. He also noted SCRRRA Executive Director  
David Aldridge’s presentation at the Town Council’s April 10, 2024 meeting, noting  
that SCRRRA may have a more centralized ability to bring the Food Waste to the  
Compost Facility in Preston.  
Councilor Ryan stated he agreed with Mayor Allyn’s comments, and he questioned  
once SCRRRA gets their Food Waste Compost Facility in Preston fully operational  
to include residential, whether Ledyard would discontinue their contract with Blue  
Earth. Mayor Allyn stated the SCRRRA Food Waste Compost Facility would still  
include a proposed Tipping Fee. Councilor Ryan stated once the SCRRRA Food  
Waste Compost Facility was fully operational that he would like to see the numbers  
of the two Facilities (Blue Earth and SCRRRA) noting that it may be advantageous  
to either stay the course with Bule Earth or to move to SCRRRA.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated that Blue Earth would work with Ledyard to educate  
the community on the Food Waste to Compost Program. Councilor Ryan questioned  
whether there would be an additional cost for the education component. Councilor  
Garcia-Irizarry stated No”, that the education campaign would be included as part  
of their service. She stated the Test Starter Kit at a cost of $2,188 would include the  
following:  
· 100 - 6 Gallon Container  
· 2,500 Compostable Bags.  
Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated as an incentive the Town could offer the first 100  
residents to receive the one 6 gallon container and compostable bags for free.  
Councilor Buhle stated the reason she liked the Starter Kit was because residents  
would get compostable bags, which would also be required for the SCRRRA Food  
Waste Compost Facility. She suggested the town also talk with SCRRRA because  
they sell compost pails for $6.00 and compost bins for $45.00. Therefore, she stated  
the town would be able to purchase 100 compost pails for $600 dollars versus the  
$2,188 for the Blue Earth Starter Kit. Councilor Garcia-Irizarry stated she liked the  
idea to check with SCRRRA about purchasing the compost pails from them, noting  
that there could be a cost saving. She stated Blue Earth did not require the town to  
purchase the supplies from them. She stated the only stipulation was that they use  
Compostable Bags, not Biodegradable Bags, or Plastic Bags, which was also a  
requirement for the SCRRRA Food Waste Compost Facility. She stated that there  
was a difference between Compostable Bags and Biodegradable Bags.  
Councilor Buhle stated before they could make any decisions regarding the  
use/allocation of the Beverage Container Surcharges (Nip Bottle Revenue) they  
would need to know the plan for the Street Sweeper. She commented that a few  
weeks ago they had all this Nip Bottle Revenue and no ideas on how to use the  
funds, and within a short time they now have all these ideas and not enough Nip  
Bottle Revenue to support them.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
Discussion regarding PILOT Food Scrap Composting Program.  
(see above - Old Business Item #3)  
4.  
CONTINUE  
RESULT:  
Any other Old Business proper to come before the Committee  
None.  
5.  
X.  
ADJOURNMENT  
Councilor Buhle moved the meeting be adjourned, seconded by Councilor Saccone.  
VOTE:  
3 - 0 Approved and so declared, the meeting was adjourned at 6:09 p.m.  
Respectfully submitted,  
Anthony Saccone, Sr.  
Committee Chairman  
Finance  
Committee  
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