741 Colonel Ledyard Highway  
Ledyard, Connecticut 06339  
TOWN OF LEDYARD  
Land Use/Planning/Public Works  
Committee  
Meeting Minutes  
Chairman  
Kevin J. Dombrowski  
Regular Meeting  
Monday, October 3, 2022  
6:00 PM  
Town Hall Annex - Hybrid Format  
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I
CALL TO ORDER  
The meeting was called to order by Councilor Paul at 6:01 p.m. at the Town Hall Annex Building  
Meeting Room.  
Councilor Paul welcomed all to the Hybird Meeting. He stated for the Town Council Land  
Use/Planning/Public Works Committee and members of the Public who were participating  
via video conference that remote meeting information was available on the Agenda that was  
posted on the Town’s Website - Granicus-Legistar Meeting Portal.  
II.  
ROLL CALL  
Gary Paul  
Present:  
S. Naomi Rodriguez  
John Marshall  
Excused:  
In addition, the following were in attendance:  
Kevin Dombrowski Chairman  
Mike Cherry Resident  
Roxanne Maher Administrative Assistant  
III.  
CITIZENS COMMENTS  
Mr. Mike Cherry, 5 Whippoorwill Drive, Gales Ferry, noted that he sent the Land  
Use/Planning/Public Works Committee a 67-page document about the Town of Woodbridge  
who was sued by a consortium of people who were stating that their Zoning Regulations  
were discriminatory because they did not allow for multi-family housing. Mr. Cherry stated  
in reading the document that he reached the conclusion that although Ledyard did not have  
the same problem as Woodbridge, that they had other problems. He stated with the Plan of  
Conservation & Development (POCD) and Zoning Regulation update that Ledyard was  
heading in the right direction. He noted page 1 and page 7 of the Woodbridge suit listing the  
allegations was worth reading noting they talked about:  
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What the State Statutes - Zoning Enabling Act required.  
What the Connecticut Constitution required.  
What the Fair Housing Law required.  
Mr. Cherry suggested as the LUPPW Committee read the 67-page Woodbridge document  
that they think about whether Ledyard met these requirements or whether they had and types  
of problems. He stated it was his opinion that that Ledyard treated multi-family units and  
fill-in housing differently than they treat single family housing. He stated Ledyard has come  
along way with the last two Zoning Regulations Update which included: (1) Reducing the  
size of the lots; (2) Adding Accessory Dwelling Units; and (3) Made changes to the bulk  
requirement. He stated Land Use Director Juliet Hodge had Ledyard heading in the right  
direction; however, they still had more work to do.  
Mr. Cherry continued by addressing recent land use developments in town, such as the  
former Dow Chemical Site; the Liquor Store in the former Veterinarian Building on Route  
12, the new Bark N’ Brew, or the Dollar General Store going in next to the McDonalds. He  
stated he walked away from the meetings realizing that most people in town have no  
understanding of Land Use Regulations, Land Use Statutes, how things were done, who had  
the authority, what the Mayor’s role was, what the Town Council’s role was, what was the  
role of the myriad of Land Use Commissions and Boards, and who had the final say. He  
stated a few years ago Councilor McGrattan and Councilor Rodriguez were involved in the  
Know Your Town Program” which was developed to teach residents about how the town  
operated. He stated it was time they teach residents about Land Use, noting he has observed  
residents challenging land use decisions such as the General Dollar Store in Gales Ferry. He  
stated residents need to understand that anything that meets the Zoning Regulations must be  
approved.  
Mr. Cherry stated Ledyard just completed a Zoning Regulation Update and he stated no one  
from the public other than Mr. Treaster, himself, and residents from the Agricultural  
Community provided input when the Zoning Commission was working to update the Zoning  
Regulations. He stated residents were not happy with the Zoning Regulation Update because  
they think the Regulations would prevent things that they would actually not prevent. Also,  
residents missed the key point that if an Application met the Zoning Regulations that it must  
be approved regardless of people’s opinions. He stated they could spend a lot of taxpayer  
money to slow down an Application in court, however, he stated the bottom line was if the  
Application met the Zoning Regulations it would be approved. He stated during the Public  
Hearing the Planning & Zoning Commission was looking for facts as to whether the  
Application met or did not meet the Zoning Regulations. He stated all of their decisions  
were fact driven and were not subject to opinion.  
Chairman Dombrowski stated he and Mr. Cherry talked about this subject last week. He  
stated as a member and former Chairman of the Zoning Commission, which was before the  
Planning Commission & Zoning Commission were merged, that he would agree that Mr.  
Cherry’s observations were correct, in that there was a lack of public understanding of how  
land use worked. He went on to state per state statute the Town Council had very little direct  
impact regarding zoning matters. He stated when residents see development happening near  
them, that it can become very emotional, and he understood their concerns. However, he  
stated the town has to permit development in accordance with what the Zoning Regulations  
allowed.  
Councilor Rodriguez stated Mr. Cherry made a good point that the public does not  
understand how land use worked relative to planning and zoning. Therefore, she stated when  
a business such as the Dollar General Store comes into town residents question why the  
Town Council would allow that to happen. She stated these types of comments indicate that  
residents do not have an understanding of how land use worked. She suggested they consider  
hosting an Informational Forum to present information regarding the roles and  
responsibilities of the town’s various land use committees/commissions/boards and how the  
process worked.  
Chairman Dombrowski stated the roles and responsibilities of the town’s land use  
commissions were included in the Town Charter, noting that he realized that most people  
have not read the Town Charter. He stated the Town Council could facilitate a Land Use  
Informational Forum to provide a platform for the Land Use Commissions to present  
information on how the land use processes work and to answer residents questions.  
The LUPPW Committee discussed making short videos that could be available on the  
town’s website for residents to learn about how the land use commissions worked.  
Mr. Cherry stated the November 8, 2022 mid-term election ballot included a question  
regarding the retail sale of adult use marijuana that may lead to cultivation and retail sale of  
marijuana in town. He stated this may or may not require changes in the Zoning  
Regulations, depending on how Ledyard categorized it. He questioned if a business was  
categorized as a retail outlet why it would be different from any other retail outlet. He stated  
the cultivation and sale of marijuana would be controlled by the State and he questioned  
whether it would be controlled different than a liquor store. He stated Ledyard’s Zoning  
Regulations allowed liquor stores in their commercial districts. He stated if Ledyard  
residents wanted something different for marijuana retail stores from how liquor stores were  
zoned, that they were running out of time to make their preferences known for the Planning  
& Zoning Commission to make the changes required to the Zoning Regulations. He  
explained otherwise, he could make the argument that the sale of marijuana was a retail  
business allowed anywhere retail and commercial was allowed in the Town of Ledyard, with  
the number of stores controlled by the State. He stated this would be a radical argument,  
noting that it was a hands-off approach, which would let the market drive it, and per the  
Zoning Regulations it would be segregated by use. However, he stated if a cultivation and  
retail sale of marijuana business was next door to someone that they probably would not like  
it. Therefore, he addressed the importance to educate residents before the matter was  
overcome by events.  
Chairman Dombrowski stated the Towns of Preston and Stonington have adopted  
regulations pertaining to where cultivation and retail sale of marijuana establishments  
would be allowed in town. He went on to state that part of his thinking was as Mr. Cherry  
noted, in that why would the town regulate the location any differently from any other  
commercial or retail enterprise, such as a liquor store, regardless of whether he was in-favor  
or not of the November 8, 2022 Referendum question “Shall the Sale of Recreational  
Marijuana be Allowed in the Town of Ledyard”.  
Mr. Cherry went on to state the issue dejour was “Short-Term Rentals”. He stated unless  
someone had one next door to them that was causing a problem, that some would say that  
they did not have a problem with short-term rentals, they stay at Air BnB’s all the time.  
However, he stated the question was what was the right answer for the Town of Ledyard.  
Councilor Paul questioned whether it was the Land Use/Planning/Public Works  
Committee’s responsibility to discuss ideas on how to get information to residents or to  
coordinate a Land Use Informational Forum. Mr. Cherry suggested that Councilor Paul bring  
the concern that recent issues show that residents do not understand land use to the Town  
Council. He stated the town had great resources, noting that Land Use Director Juliet Hodge  
and others who have served in town would be happy to help provide information to residents  
on how the land use process worked in Ledyard. He stated because people do not know the  
process, they often become frustrated the day after they could have done something, and  
then nothing could be done at that point.  
Councilor Paul stated the LUPPW Committee would include a discussion on how to get  
information out to residents pertaining the process to address land use matters.  
Chairman Dombrowski thanked Mr. Cherry for his comments this evening.  
IV.  
V.  
PRESENTATIONS / INFORMATIONAL ITEMS  
None.  
APPROVAL OF MINUTES  
MOTION to approve the LUPPW Committee Special Meeting Minutes of September 19,  
2022  
VI.  
OLD BUSINESS  
A motion was made by Paul, seconded by Rodriguez, that this be Approved and so declared.  
The motion carried by the following vote:  
APPROVED AND SO DECLARED  
Gary Paul  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
S. Naomi Rodriguez  
SECONDER:  
2
1
Paul and Rodriguez  
Marshall  
AYE:  
EXCUSED:  
Continued discussion and possible action to periodically review the list of town owned  
property; and update accordingly for the “Assignment of Administrative Control”.  
1.  
2.  
Councilor Rodriguez stated that she would talk with Land Use Director Juliet Hodge  
regarding the completion of the GIS System update.  
NO ACTION  
RESULT:  
Continued discussion regarding the progress of enforcing regulations to address blight issues.  
Councilor Paul stated Blight Reports would be provided on a quarterly basis.  
NO ACTION  
RESULT:  
Potential future uses for the 101.80-acre Clark Farm property located at 1025 Colonel  
Ledyard Highway.  
3.  
4.  
NO ACTION  
RESULT:  
Status update regarding security and safety concerns regarding Park on East Drive  
Councilor Paul noted Mr. Jamison’s e-mail dated September 27, 2022 which included  
photographs of the new lights. He stated the electricity has been connected to the poles and  
the lights looked beautiful.  
Councilor Rodriguez stated they were making progress at the Park, noting that the lights  
have been installed and turned on and that the railroad ties have been delivered. She thanked  
Mr. Jamison for moving the ties out of the way of the swing set. She noted Parks &  
Recreation Director Scott Johnson, Jr. talked with the Mayor regarding the special type of  
paint that was required to cover the graffiti. She stated although progress was slow that it  
was being made. She stated she looked forward to seeing the Park next Spring, 2023 with the  
warmer weather.  
Councilor Paul stated in his conversation with Parks & Recreation Director Scott Johnson,  
Jr. they discussed visiting the Park to see the lights turned on. He thanked Mr. and Mrs.  
Jamison for their interest in the Park and continued updates. He stated they were moving in  
the right direction.  
NO ACTION  
RESULT:  
MOTION to adopt a proposed "Resolution of the Ledyard Town Council to Opt-Out of  
Public Act 21-29 Regarding Multi-Family Parking Spaces And Accessory Apartments" as  
contained in the draft dated October 17, 2022.  
5.  
Administrative Assistant Roxanne Maher stated in speaking with Land Use Director Juliet  
Hodge that she indicated that the Planning & Zoning Commission would be taking action to  
recommend the Town Council opt-out of Public Act 21-29 Accessory Apartments and  
Parking Provision of CT Public Act 21-29 (PA 21-29) at their October 13, 2022 meeting and  
would subsequently forward their action to the Town Council.  
Chairman Dombrowski stated in accordance with Public Act 21-29 the Opt-Out Process was  
required to be completed by December 31. 2022. He stated to finalize this process that Town  
Council action was required.  
Chairman Dombrowski went on to note that the Planning & Zoning Commission approved  
the Zoning Regulations Update, which included Ledyard’s Regulations for Accessory  
Dwelling Units (ADU). He stated the new Zoning Regulations became effective on  
September 28, 2022. He explained by Ledyard having their own Accessory Dwelling Units  
(ADU) Regulations that the town would be able to Opt-Out of the State’s ADU Regulations;  
and it would provide the town with more flexibility in regulating the Accessory Dwelling  
Units in our community.  
Chairman Dombrowski concluded by explaining to Opt-Out of the Public Act #21-29 ADU  
that it would require a two-thirds vote of the Town Council.  
NO ACTION  
RESULT:  
Any other Old Business proper to come before the Committee.  
None.  
6.  
VII. NEW BUSINESS  
MOTION to approve the Land Use/Planning/Public Works Committee 2023 Meeting  
1.  
Schedule.  
to meet on the first Monday of each month at 6:00 p.m. as follows:  
Land Use/Planning/Public Works Committee (1st Monday, Annex Building 6:00 p.m.)  
January 2  
May 1  
February 6  
June 5  
March 6  
July 3  
April 3  
August  
7 September 5*  
October 2  
November 6  
December 4  
January 2*, 2024  
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*
Denotes meeting cancelled due to holiday  
Denotes regular meeting date scheduled is different from regular schedule  
Moved by Councilor Paul, seconded by Councilor Rodriguez  
Discussion: Councilor Paul explained in accordance with CGS 1-225 each Committee must  
file its meeting schedule for the coming year in the Town Clerk’s Office. He stated if there  
were no objections that the LUPPW Committee would continue to meet on the first Monday  
of each month. He noted because some of the Committee’s dates would fall on a Monday  
Legal Holiday that they would be scheduled for another day as noted in the schedule above.  
VOT2E-:0 Approved and so declared.  
APPROVED AND SO DECLARED  
Gary Paul  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
S. Naomi Rodriguez  
SECONDER:  
2
1
Paul and Rodriguez  
Marshall  
AYE:  
EXCUSED:  
Any other New Business proper to come before the Committee.  
None.  
2.  
IV  
ADJOURNMENT  
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